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  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    but I wouldn't ask her about astrophysics.

    but you would ask her about opera, live performance, how she derives her income from her craft, the laws that relate to her craft and how they affect her, how technology has impacted on her, etc etc.

    Islander isn't commenting on astrophysics.she's commenting on the direct field of her experience.
    in this thread you're closer to the person commenting on astrophysics.
    you're ideas and concepts are valid to be considered but you're not you ain't the proven expert...... yet.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    no more credibility in discussing copyright than you or I

    she may well have more knowledge than you based on first hand experience (not that you'll ever give credit for that) and that little notion of investment in the process, ie you're an enthusiastic amateur who doesn't derive your income predominantly from creative copyrightable activity, which gives you a completely different perspective on the whole picture. ie you have next to nothing to lose and no idea of the real magnitude of impact a change will make cos you've got nect to no rel world experience to base it on.

    something about if you want to know what it's like for someone else try walking a few miles in their shoes.

    on a side note, you're quite an insulting arse at times to some quite polite people. not that you care but its worth noting.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    I've already said I don't download, so no.

    so you're telling it how it is based on,......ignorance?
    you don't have to download to read the data. you should do a little easy on the street research before you go pleading your case.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    who believes the world owes him a living for being a middleman

    if you're referring to me I ain't (just) the middleman, i'm mostly a participant in all my projects (be it musician, writer, producer, engineer, graphic artist etc), and I participate in all parts of the chain from creator to distributor and also audience as I get involved in things I want to hear, but thanks for the one dimensional portrayal.

    An Artist strives

    grubby little hand,

    that will bring an end to all suffering

    ahhh, you were having a little day dream. wake up mate.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    RS
    Or funded by a tax or levy on internet use, distributed by a Quango?

    MH
    Total strawman, not even going to bother with this

    its a favoured solution of peter jenner, and one being discussed seriously, but you go right ahead and pretend its some kind of imagined solution.

    I think it has it's merits when recoginising that hi bandwidth users are predominantly pushing media down the line.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    If you want to, as a creator, it's your choice. If your question is "should it be required?", then that's as silly as your last point.

    another point you didn't understand. he's not making the comment as a creator, he's asking if we as consumers want that in our content, cos by not paying for content that's one of the options we push creators toward.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    Most of that wonderful content you refer to is created by people who have 'day jobs', mainly because content creation, except at the very peak of the business, doesn't actually pay that well consistently.

    What are you basing that comment on?

    Iron and wine don't have day jobs yet their latest album is up for download.
    The doves do music full time and you can grab their new one easy enough.

    major motion pictures are made by full time workers and there's plenty of that up there.

    plenty of people used to devote their full day to the making of 'content'. if you take the return from sales away how many can achieve it now, that's the question.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    FFS Rob!

    excellent, there we go modifying the conversation to mr hair trigger's temper. Was it not you who just lectured tussock on how to behave here? Is that kind of response really necessary?

    You obviously don't understand the point that rob was trying to make.

    Amateur in the instance refers to the situation of doing the first one or two efforts for nix and then giving up. Nothing to do with training or expertise. its to do with the amount of time you can devote to the exercise.

    Amateur level in this context means devote whatever time you can between income earning work. It means instead of producing crafted masterworks you produce predominantly budget, best you can do under the circumstances works. It means instead of producing 1 work a year or 2 producing one in eight years as we've seen with a number of our local music legends (verlaines, bats, etc). That's the concept you didn't get before you let that pushy mr angry shout down Rob's comment.

    and then complain that all we ever talk about is music - ah, the irony

    uh, actually I was noting that it is common to make the problem music's only when film and games are hit hard by it.
    I speak about my area of experience, you're apparently are an expert in all areas. colour me jealous.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    nicely simplified though

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    The actual issues are emotional to me.

    well noted tussock, although some of that emotion is driven by misunderstanding or not grasping the who issue at hand.

    so they can keep making money doing something we can do for ourselves now.

    that would be one of those points. you're not sharing expensive movies that you've done yourself, you're sharing ones other people have done. you're assessing the act of distribution as the whole of the product where it is only the end part.

    bow-staff

    we don't get nearly enough medieval examples on here.
    the noticeboard analogy is a good one but a more realistic example would be someone using that noticeboard to advise others of how to break a law.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

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