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That is an utterly ridiculous comparison.
its not a comparison
I think it's a dumb system too, but I hope you tipped. They don't get a living wage otherwise.
is it my fault that they chose not to install the drm equivalent in their choice of employer. if they want guarenteed income they can get a job in a factory like everyone else.
under the piracy model I should be able to sneak out the door without leaving a tip and hold my head up high, right?
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robbery, dude, enough with the "theft" story, it's called breach of copyright.
haha, sorry, if it helps any its theft when I do it too. The term Breach of copyright just takes the sting off it for us but by law its the same thing, actually its seen as something worse.
that poor woman who shared 24 songs and got stung for US$140,000.if she'd nicked 24 cds from the local store she'd have got a small fine and community service. I don't see how $140000 relates to her offense.
maybe its a cultural thing. some cultures are really honest or ethical when it comes to certain things,. our culture more an more influenced by what we see from america maybe accepts mass law transgression. ie its ok to invade someones country if there are a lot of people doing it.
I remember being in europe and objecting to their pay public toilets, or the american system of tipping wait staff in restaurants. Maybe you think art consumption should be discretionary like wait staff, instead of mandatory like taking a dump in a european toilet.
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And how would you have felt if 25 ppl paid to get into one of your raves and 5000 just snuck in?
a) I've never put on a "rave", and b) if I had there would be no long term benefit to either myself or my artist if they had, unlike the CD being in their home. Not really an appropriate comparison.
you're hoping there is some long term benefit, that some decent person somewhere down the line is going to buy a copy, but realistically its like someone sneaking into your gig and letting everyone they know sneak in too, and all the people they know, its a mindset thing where cos people we know accept the theft then its somehow less of a crime and moreof an allowable thing to do.
you want everyone to hear and enjoy the music that's important to you as an artist but where does the promotional benefit stop and taking the piss start.
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They actually were quite big here, unlike all the other ones who just pretended to be but weren't. If I want to impress someone, I say I know Supergroove and it works everytime, anywhere in SEA.
and in germany too. I was staying with some kraut friends and they played me a video of their band rocking out and they were playing a version of you gotta know. I explained they were a kiwi band and they were slightly shocked.
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nothing directly to do with me that one....
sorry, I was thinking 3 the hard way album 2
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its the one, for a variety of reasons, I feel least passionate about.
but one that enabled you to do other things you did feel passionate about? maybe not but definitely a reward for your years of being your own nz on air funding body. and hopefully you got to pay off some of the people who also put their time in.
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Anyway, thanks sincerely Rob for being such a game contrarian. It's an interesting thread.
no problem, paul and finn came up with a couple of really interesting slants on the convo too.
its not like there's anything we can do about it as individuals, us individually not downloading music on principle isn't going to change anything, but being able to look down the track a few years and past the initial blast of getting all the music you ever wanted for nothing cos the barn door is open, its a lot more complex than "evil majors deserve it" -
Why bother with DRM when CDs don't have it?
I think the idea is to have it in cds too. its in dvds.
They've tried a couple of times in cds, badly, one versions was easily defeated with a felt tip pen. others rely on you installing some bogus software on your computer first.drm is for people who can't figure a work around and that's probably most of the people who are stealing britney singles.
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I'd still have rather had my records in homes than not.
sure, of course, but you're not saying you'd happily give away 'how bizarre'. Its not so much the point of making a living even, its getting enough money to cover the next album, although I'm sure you're in a different mind about his recent album, if you could give it away.
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And I don't really give a damn. I'd rather 5000 people were listening to a pirated album than 25 bought it.
you say that now the label isn't your day job, but casting your mind back to the early eighties there's a hungry record label owner who might answer differently,