Er, I don't think looking after the environment and "blue-collar" workers are matters that need to be tackled separately.
Also, can we please stop using the term "blue collar"? It excludes all those people working in service industries - cleaning, cooking, call centres - who aren't on the factory line or in trades, but who often get even shittier wages and conditions.
The strange media story tellers we have love the easy story of pinko socialists versus bizness savy normal nu zilders.
And that's exactly the narrative that many members of my family fell for. My mother was telling me that the "hounding" of Collins over the Oravida affair was just a beat-up and had no relevance to her ability to do the job. She would have felt even more strongly about the Whaleoil and NSA revelations, which aren't relevant to "ordinary people", and are just an excuse for lefties to pile on to the current govt.
Despite the fact she's a cook, working full time at the age of 67 for the "award" wage (no more than that), living in rented accommodation in South Auckland. Nope, the current govt (somehow) does a "good job" of taking care of her.
And what Ben says. Congratulations, Deborah, on doing so well in such a horribly bad election for the party as a whole.
Certainly better at retaining such party support as their was compared to senior figures like Goff et al.
I will say that I think it's very true that there is a perception that the Labour parliamentary "branch" has been hijacked by a bunch of out of touch wankers.
But I personally think of many of those who did their apprenticeship during or in the aftermath of Rogernomics, which is when Labour lost its way. I lost what trust I had in them after that, although obviously they were the better of the two evils.
Yes, Helen got in power because she did unite the parliamentary section, and was an amazing horse trader in the new MMP system. Now that this able - not flawless - leader has been lost, the quality of the post-Rogernome candidates is showing through.
That's where fingers should be pointed. And yes, distractions along the identity politics debates should be met with resounding yawns, and the message that Labour is about a fair go for EVERYONE. Higher minimum wages help everyone, gay, brown, factory workers, service industry. State houses help everyone at the bottom of the pile and take power away from rentier landlords. Gay, straight, brown, factory workers with two jobs, people unable to work...
Stop throwing each other under the bus, and get back to "power to the people". ALL the people.
You might have a point, if the Rangitikei seat were in the slightest bit marginal. But it never has been- farmers, as you say.
And the general ethos is to throw junior candidates into safe opposition electorates so that they can prove their work ethnic while leaving the more prominent candidates to fight the more marginal electorates.
Show us a "close" electorate where there was such a candidate mismatch, and we might then see the point of your fulminations against "liberal identity politics".
You know, all this rehearsing the rights and wrongs of Assange - and I'm afraid I'm with Craig here in that he should stop his weaselly bullshit and deal properly with the legal matters (and FFS, leave the emotive "rape" word out of it, and whether or not it's "rape-rape" - it is a kind of sexual assault he's up for and he should do his goddamn day in court).
...Getting back to the point, can anyone tell me what he actually brought to the presentation last night other than "governments are naughty, m'kay?". We're spending a significant amount of energy in this thread talking about Assange's personality and legal woes, which just demonstrates to me how much of a distraction he is from the real issues at this juncture. If we need to discuss him, fine, discuss what he actually had to say about these allegations (sweet F-A, frankly).
I have to agree that wheeling Assange out was incredibly disappointing. Whether or not you choose to believe his pronouncements at the likelihood of extraordinary rendition from the sovereign nation of Sweden (hardly known for their blind endorsement of US policies) as an excuse to dodge his legal troubles, he's a spent force. What did he have to offer - in terms of relevant facts - to this matter?
Lefties have their own version of the All Black endorsement - but this one was particularly tone-deaf
I agree that there should be positive messages out there, and frankly, the major opposition party doesn't do a fantastic job of that,
But saying to move on when the crap is actively flying, and there is no indication that the culture and ethos of the perpetrators as changed one iota seems a little ... soon. Ok, so Collins has been booted from Cabinet. Whoopee. She hasn't been booted out of Parliament, or out of the party, and has undoubtedly been promised a wet bus ticket slap with the purported investigation.
And I think the indications are that the buck doesn't stop with her. Are we trying to pretend that she is not in the slightest bit emblematic of a certain variety of right-leaning types with a healthy dose of entitlement, arrogance and a desire for self-aggrandisement? Not to mention the toxic culture of that "me first" group in Parliament in terms of ethics and a serious lack of accountability (except to one's own mates and one's wallet).
Regarding Hager's timing, I have to say that it's patently obvious he's trying to affect the election result. Good, whether his motivation is to get rid of these corrupt clowns, or something deeper.
I went to one primary school - out of five - that had bible class - on Auckland's North Shore in the 70s. My mother rarely attended PTA meetings, but this made her go absolute apeshit when she found out. Most of her demeanour in those days was "stoic", but that one really riled her up.
Outcome was the school made bible class optional for everyone, with no pressure, although still during school hours.
As far as karakia is concerned in parliament, one that acknowledges the land and the people, preferably alternating the official languages, is fine by me. Sadly, I've heard way too much Atua, Atua, Atua in non-religious contexts more recently.