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What does he think about forgiveness? Does he give any credence to forgiveness as a precursor to healing?
Thank you Hilary. This sums up for me the biggest problem with popularised criminology as represented by McVicar and the SST. It is hard for most people to grasp the concepts of accountability and forgiveness in the same sentence, but they are not, IMhO, mutually exclusive. Hope is a powerful force for good, on both sides of the equation.
What does McVicar think of restorative justice?
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Following on from discussions above (yes, I'm going back there) it started to dawn on me that this has many parallels to the world of language where colonisation and western style democratisation has overrun many orally based or indigenous languages, including, obviously, Maori.
In this article the author summarises this problem thus;
Phillipson documents the process of linguistic imperialism, in which the teaching of literate forms of colonial and national languages does enormous damage to most of the ancestral and primarily oral languages of the world, as well as to their cultures (Phillipson, 1992). Mühlhäusler traces the destruction of language ecologies – not just languages but the conditions that make these languages viable – by what he calls ‘killer languages’ (Mühlhäusler, 1996).
Isn't saying the west invented art similar to saying it invented language, and that what existed before was a lessor, primitive form of communication (read art), that needed the rigour of institutionalised academia to enlighten the primitive culture as to it's true meaning, form or value?
How is this not the worst kind of cultural imperialism?
The standpoint of Art History seems wholly insufficient to properly consider the nuances of these issues, even with regards to Art. Surely the broader aspects relate to Anthropology, Philosophy, Linguistics, Sociology yadda yadda yadda.
We gave them a better world. Their humble craftsmen can now be fully-fledged artists.
As merc said, this seems to be the nub of it.
Your culture, art, language, heritage has no meaning or value unless, or until, we say it does. I have nothing to learn from you, so shut up and listen.Doesn't make me a proud Pakeha, to be honest. Especially as one who taught English for many years. In my defence I wasn't part of an invading colonial force. Well, not overtly.
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It is better to die knowing you are a fool than to live thinking you are a genius.
Confucius probably said.
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Ok, but just to lay down some ground rules. If anyone says 'man up' or 'have some balls' on a thread about art, I'm telling my mum.
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It was time to move on pages ago, and yet you're still right, and we're all still idiots. And you still don't get it.
Happy Easter, for what it's worth.
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Why not? It is probably safer than discussing Art or that Sesh video, if current form is anything to go by. But then, I wasn't there, so 'It is nought good a slepyng hound to wake' as Chaucer said.
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Jesus Christ.
Crucifixion?
Yes.
One cross each, first door on the right. Next.Sacha, I ran out of steam for Twitter. Or it ran out of steam for me. Kind of nearly gave up here too, again. Increasingly apparent why.
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So I'm going to go with "bollocks yourself". Perhaps your idea is so powerful that it doesn't need talking about.
Act party policy? See the difference is, we cretins read Gio and feel like he is willing to accept our perspective, in spite of our failings, whereas with Paul, not so much.
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Really? I mean, come on. This is just mindlessly stupid, up there with telling someone who studied at the Courtauld that they don't know art history.
Well, if you say so. My point is if I have to read Boredman in order to participate in discussions here that start with a rugby statue then, well, I mustn't have read the manual properly.
But all the people who study non-Western material culture - anthropologists and the like - are united in saying that the traditional cultural practices of non-Western peoples cannot be described as art.
All of them? 100 percent? Totally united in their opinions on this? Well, you're the expert.
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Love Marian Maguire's work. Herakles was the subject of an excellent review by Adam Gifford on the Herald.
Thanks Gio. Remember reading that around the time. Quite tempted, but in the end got a Liam Barr print instead. Another artist playing with our cultural heritage and modern symbolism. Amazing richness of colour and detail in the actual prints, which the photos don't do justice.