Posts by Simon Grigg

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  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    FYI, Milli Vanilli won the 1990 Best New Artist Grammy over Tone Loc, Soul II Soul, Indigo Girls and Neneh Cherry.

    therein lies the real crime, and a testament to the validity of the grammies (which have a glorious history of getting it oh so wrong).

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    Gotta disagree with Mr Grigg on this one. I don't think the 'people' know that when Kylie, Madonna, Britney, et all get a song credit it's because their contract demands it.

    Yep, I think I misstated that. Of course the kid with the iPod doesn't know the contractual intricacies of how it actually works, that the producer made a record and banged several session vocals on top with the acts voice mixed in there somewhere. Nor do they care, they just want to be entertained.

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  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    who made the videos of the two miming to the tracks and who authorised putting their muggs on the front cover? Was that the record company too with out farian's knowledge? I'd find that a little hard to swallow.

    The cover was changed completely in the US. Vocal credits were added..the original made it clear that Farian had made it. The vids were made in the US (everything was remixed in the US so the vids had to be made there). The original European videos for the two big hits had the guys dancing and walking but not singing. There are tens of thousands of albums of throwaway pop or disco with models on the front and Europeans don't seem to be taken in. The only real fuss about MV came from the US, and at the time there was much bemusement that they actually thought they were a 'band'..I mean, look at them...seriously....

    Farian actually fought the branding of these guys as a band all along (but happily took the cheques I'm sure).

    Really, I'd be surprised if 50% of the stuff on the singles charts in 2008 actually featured the vocals of the 'act' in any real form. They might have elements but thats about it. Its pop music....The Beach Boys didn't play on their records until 1967 (although Brian did create them), Chris Spedding played the guitar and bass on the Sex Pistols album, who knows who was on half the Motown stuff. Bands like N'Sync had little to do with making their records and have usually mimed on stage to them. Madonna mimes much of the time (and I bet we don't know who is on each actual recording). I know of at least one 'credible' NZ album that was made when the artist was not present for much more than a few overdubs and the photoshoot.....it goes on and its pop. Always will be.

    Farian should have got the grammy himself, he was a master craftsman and still is. I don't like the music but I can appreciate it for what it was.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Hard News: Make you crazy like datura,

    Here it is. The really interesting part is the way the greens have held up over 2 polls

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  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    the consumer very much does give a toss, which might explain the public outcry and ridicule of the 'band' that made them a worldwide joke.

    It wasn't worldwide Rob, it was American outrage and self embarrassment. Everybody else knew. Just as they know that Britney doesn't really write those songs.

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  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    I see immaculately dressed teens miming to on multimillion dollar sets playing vastly expensive instruments bought for them by daddy singing about how hard their life is on the street.

    Yes but despite that I quite liked The Clash

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  • Hard News: Make you crazy like datura,

    Simon, I'm also my worst critic. I didn't make it clear that I got that you were saying "Auckland and NZ is actually mostly cool, the residents just don't seem to appreciate it".

    And I didn't make that clear either but anyone who knows me knows how I feel about my hometown.

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  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    well really the joke was on the music consumer who were dupped into believing those 2 guys in the videos and on the covers were anything much to do with the music that was coming out of the speakers.

    no, because it was the record company in the US, Arista, who changed, without Farian knowing, the credits to include fake vocal credits, and who gave the "band' a grammy for best new act.

    The kids who bought the records don't give a toss at the end of the day. The joke was on the industry.

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  • Hard News: Make you crazy like datura,

    You want a recipe for raw prawns?

    Not really raw but cooked in the lemon juice they've been sitting in. And smothered in chopped chilli and....well...

    But we've managed to approximate, so all is well

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Hard News: Make you crazy like datura,

    Eating in Auckland is uneven, but - for example - the Kingsland eating strip is very good (I love Bouchon, I love Canton, I adore Mekong Nuea...) and I think the Albert Street food court is smashing. I suppose you do have to know where to go.

    see, there you go, ruining it all by telling everyone. Mekong Nuea was one of the little places I meant...god I miss the raw prawns, so much so that we've been trying to replicate them.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

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