Posts by Emma Hart
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Yes it did, but sorry I didn't realize your second comment was a clarification of what you actually meant. When I reread it now it's clear that's what you were doing. My mistake.
Yay. Genuinely very glad we could sort that out.
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My workplace is such that I just gathered a large group around my computer to watch with joy and additional, but less tuneful, vocals.
Awesome.
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You’re saying to Tess that people of her religion need to obey the law, not their conscience.
No, Steve, I'm saying
I think the obligation and the consequences should be the same whether you break the law for religious reasons or not.
My first comment read as if I thought everybody should obey every law all the time no matter what. That wasn't right, which was why I changed it. So my position is pretty much the same as what you state in your last paragraph, with the caveat that if you openly break the law, you should be prepared to accept the consequences of that, and not say 'oh, but I deserve a special dispensation to not have that law apply to me'. I'm not sure if I can make that any clearer.
I always assumed you meant pike as in what Vlad was fond of using.
Nah, Giovanni just hits people with fish. Especially those guys in the stripy costumes outside the Vatican.
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But hey, I hug men.
Wait, hugging someone means you're having sex with them? No wonder I was so bloody tired after Foo Camp.
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No need! I've got something that'll do the job quite nicely.
I love you.
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"HOMOSEXUALITY - Buy One, Get One Free! Today Only!"
One? Why do you think we call 'em faggots? Cause they come in big bundles!
out of context character assignation
Russell, is there something we should know? Have you been seeing Pollyanna on the side?
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It's also hard to have a discussion where people say things which are, no matter how gently and lovingly expressed, really offensive.
So do you want Tess to stop posting? I'm just a bit puzzled.
No, not at all. With the caveat that, if anyone feels this thread is in danger of becoming like the copyright thread let me know, and I'll... post some Kirk-Spocking videos or something.
It's the idea that 'harsh language' is getting in the way of a constructive discussion, where I think we might actually be all out of constructive discussion at this point. But then, as I think is pretty obvious, I/S and I have done this very dance with Tess a few times in the past, and maybe other people are still learning stuff that we're taking for granted.
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Luckily, at this point in the conversation - the point where we've established God's assholitude - I don't think 'distancing the kids from Him' is actually damage. Win!
I like to picture God in his big chair, at his PC*, headdesking and going "That's not what I said!".
To be a little more general than my comments before, I think there comes a point in every discussion where you have evidence-based theory on one side and religious theory on the other (ie evolution, young earth, etc) where you just have to concede that, no matter how genuine or polite, the two sides are speaking completely different languages and have no hope of convincing each other.
*Alright, yes, God is probably a Mac user.
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but it's going to be hard to have a discussion if the harsh words get thrown around all the time.
It's also hard to have a discussion where people say things which are, no matter how gently and lovingly expressed, really offensive. I find the suggestion that gay people do some kind of invisible damage to children really offensive. I have, however, restrained myself from a massive sarcastic rant about how gay you have to be, and how close to the child, for that damage to happen, because Tess's behaviour just hasn't warranted it.
But.
It's also quite hard to have a discussion that goes:
"I believe X"
"But research says X isn't true"
"I still genuinely believe X"
"..."
And yeah, I've had that discussion with people who aren't religious as well. And I think it's disingenious to accuse people of 'refusing to thoughtfully engage in dialogue' after 24 pages and about three rounds of 'nobody is forcing you to do anything'.
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Or if you want all the lesbians you can carry.
Hmm... how heavy are these lesbians?
We had a Singaporean writer at Bardic Web for a few years, she was a really lovely woman. She had to give it up because her family and her boyfriend found out she was using the internet recreationally and made her stop.