Posts by Bart Janssen
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Hard News: Angry and thrilled about Arie, in reply to merc,
Most haiku are about Autumn
Statistical claims
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Hard News: Angry and thrilled about Arie, in reply to Russell Brown,
not as consciously awful as what senior officers did later
Yeah this is the bit that worries me the most.
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Hard News: Angry and thrilled about Arie, in reply to Sacha,
which is also not just a matter of handing around a few factsheets
Yeah I don't believe it will be that simple either. I don't think changing attitudes is easy. But I really do think at least at the very front line it was mostly just complete ignorance, they simply had no clue that someone on the autism spectrum might react differently under stress.
I'm just very conscious that us humans can get very stubborn when blame is being assigned. I'd really hope we can avoid getting to the point where police won't listen at all, and yes maybe they are already there :(.
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Much as I'd personally like to smack someone over the back of the head for what has happened in this case, I think there is probably a good case for proceeding in a measured careful way from here.
The aim surely is to create understanding and awareness in the police that people on the spectrum are not easy to assess particularly in the heat of the moment where they are most likely to stress out.
As I said going on a hunt to find the particular officers involved might be fun but it isn't likely to engender any kind of willingness for the police to learn from their errors.
One thing it seems to me is needed is some kind of instruction sheet that can help police identify when they are dealing with something other than a bog standard criminal. Ignorance seems to have been the problem and ignorance can be cured reasonably easily.
Given that the police almost certainly know they f'ed up badly and are likely embarrassed at many levels it seems likely that they might be willing at the moment to work quite hard to develop better practices rather than have folks focus on who should be blamed. While less emotionally satisfying it might be the best long term approach.
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Hard News: 2011: The Year Of What?, in reply to Sacha,
My sympathy was greatly reduced by the whanau’s stonewalling of the investigation.
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When they blocked police access they declared they cared not at all for the truth, no matter how ugly that truth might be.
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Seems to me they simply got it very wrong at the time. Which given the time is something that humans can be expected to do, even if we hope our police are better than that.
And then could not dredge up the strength of character to admit they made a mistake. Perhaps because they knew people would be (rightly) censured for that mistake. Perhaps simply because they could find the strength of character.
Hopefully, someone will see fit to finally apologise fully and compensate. Personally I'd be happy to see my government do that with my taxes.
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Hard News: 2011: The Year Of What?, in reply to 3410,
interrupted
?!?! Given my randomness, even when I'm not completely missing the point (as highlighted by recordari), how could I possibly think you rude?
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Hard News: 2011: The Year Of What?, in reply to recordari,
Since when did the police start making BComs part of their training? If you check, I think that’s what I was talking about.
Arrgghh I thought Sofie was referring to the economists part of the thread - head, meet desk.
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When the recession began there were many wise words about having learnt the lessons of both the Great Depression and Japans long malaise. Now we know that we didn’t learn a thing. Our stimulus was too weak, too short and not well designed. The banks weren’t forced to return to lending. Our leaders tried papering over the economy’s weaknesses
He's talking about New Zealand right? Actually he isn't but he might as well have been since it accurately describes NZs response the global recession as well.
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Also bear in mind they were studies done by people with psych degrees so it could easily have been superseded by now with new theories completely "disproving" the old theories.
And yeah Matthew I agree it probably is very much a case of a little knowledge is much worse than none or lots.