Posts by BenWilson

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Feel free to leave a comment letting Radio Live know what you think.

    They shut off the comments before I'd posted :-( But at least there are 37 comments all dedicated to telling them they're wankers.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Russell Brown,

    And what does this mean?
    >Great. Looking forward to a mob inspired murder coming to my neighborhood.

    I was being sarcastic. The moral panic that led to the Mazengarb Report also led to a murder being committed. I don't think that murder is in the public interest. Personally, I used Google to find that out, not my secret squirrels.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Danielle,

    In the Nicholas case, Dewar was actually jailed for 4.5 years for obstructing justice, and he went to quite some lengths. But in this case, I don't know. Rape is such a common crime that I presume they have a lot of cases in a backlog. Letting one slide further down than it should because the son of an officer is involved is credible, but it's speculation.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Lilith __,

    If this turns out to be a case of actual police corruption, then I’d hope, as in the Nicholas case, that the officer doing the obstructing of justice serves some time in prison. But I still find it pretty hard to believe that a bunch of coppers would go to such lengths just to protect the son of another cop, given what loose cannons these rapists are, bragging about it all online. It’s always going to come out.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Lilith __,

    It was a long time ago, but what about what happened to Louise Nicholas?

    Yes, but that was actually police doing the crime. Interestingly, she speaks in the Herald article today:

    Ms Nicholas took police to court for raping her as a teenager and now advises officers how to deal with complaints of rape and sexual violence.

    She said it was the law rather than police inactivity stopping officers bringing the Roast Busters to account.

    She said it was important the girls knew they would be supported and receive full name suppression if they choose to make a formal complaint.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Lilith __,

    I'll say that I think that IF the cops could have seized the cameras, they should have. So the questions about what they did do are perfectly fair ones. I just don't know what they did actually do. The hypotheticals are around why they might have been unable to seize the footage. I find it hard to believe that they were unwilling. Really hard. I can't think of any time I've heard of a cop being told about a moral crime, and then getting a warrant to go kicking in a door and searching around someone's private stuff for evidence, that they wouldn't relish the opportunity.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to ScottY,

    Gosh, the weird little undercurrent of “tales of duplicitous jailbait” in this thread doesn’t make me want to hurl at all.

    Yeah it's horrid, but prosecution has to prepare for what probable defenses will be. Attacking the witness is a pretty standard tactic. Making up a story is nearly universal if they are actually guilty. I wouldn't expect it to be a complimentary story about the victim, given the way this has gone down many, many times in actual cases.

    @ScottY

    Can the defense compel the victim to testify?

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to ScottY,

    The point though, is that the defendant has to actually prove that steps were taken.

    Can you give me an example of an acceptable proof?

    by showing that the defendant and witnesses were lying.

    How would you show that, if no one else will testify? Surely it's a defense lawyer's dream when the only witnesses are their witnesses?

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to ScottY,

    Actually it’s the other way round. The onus is on the defendant to establish that they did take steps, if they want to use this defence.

    So if they get all of the people who were there to say the same story, which involves the girl making claims, producing a fake ID, and then flirting with them and taking her clothes off, what evidence is there against? It becomes a number of words against no words.

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  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I read him saying that after the fact, certainly. But he could say he only found out later. Indeed, it seemed that way from what he said, although I would not be surprised if he's lying about that.

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