It’s rather disappointing that no one seems to have thought about all this in advance …
Nobody seems to have thought anything though -- but never mind, Boris has assured us all the EU really wants to hang out with the people who just told them to fuck off, If this stoned Womble is going to be responsible for leading negotiations on a trade deal with the EU and minimize whatever tariffs result, then the British economy hasn't even begun to feel the pain.
Exactly like that dude. Thanks for the pointer, linger.
Yes. One would think that there are many Remain voters unwilling to go along with a fantasy petition too.
I'm one of them, just as I'm bemused by people who think Nicola Sturgeon is going to pass up her best shot at an independence do-over for Scot Brexit veto on grounds that are... well, dodgy as hell.
I just don't know why more people aren't repeating this simple matter of fact: Parliament trumps a non-binding referendum. Why is nobody demanding a free vote in the Commons on Brexit?
My parents both voted Leave. I asked them why yesterday, after they’d told me they were horrified at people implying they were racist or xenophobic – I did point out that not all the 52% were that, but the proportion that were felt that they had 52% of Britain supporting them now.
Exactly. I know this is harsh, but when you went to the ballot box and voted with people who explicitly and unapologetically are racist and xenophobic as hell? Yeah, I don't think you should expect a lick of sympathy from the Polish and Muslim communities right now.
Since there is a power vacuum, it might be a good time to ask the Queen what she thinks. If there was ever a time for a constitutional monarchy, it would be when the democratic system suddenly collapses.
And she won’t, because The Queen has a grip on how a constitutional monarchy actually works.
And disappointed as I am by the result, democracy has not collapsed in the UK. Last time I looked, Parliament still trumps a non-binding indicative opinion poll and England already has one queen. It doesn’t need millions of the House of Drama.
Yes. That the EU is not a democratic institution is a salient point not often made.
Neither is the United Kingdom’s upper house and the hereditary monarch who is their head of state – a salient point that never gets made.
And that the Remain faction was finaced by the big banks makes one question what their motive for remaining is. Well it’s fairly obvious.
And, yet again, let’s have a little honesty about who was financing the Leave campaign shall we?
The two largest donations, together worth more than £5m, were to Leave campaign groups backed by Arron Banks, the insurance millionaire and Ukip backer: Leave.EU and Grassroots Out. The official pro-Brexit organisation is Vote Leave.
The largest individual donation was made by Peter Hargreaves, founder of the financial advisory firm Hargreaves Lansdowne, who gave £3.2m to Leave.EU. The second largest came from Better for the Country Ltd, which is owned by Mr Banks, and which donated £1.95m to the umbrella group Grassroots Out.
Meanwhile, good luck to all those Leave voters looking for assurances that Prime Minister Boris is going to make sure those EU funding holes are going to be filled. I expect that 350m a week for the NHS that vanished hours after the polls closed with materialize first.
Ugh, you're quite right Vern(on) Young is a second cousin of mine, who is also a top-shelf human being but has as much interest in politics as I have in rugby. :)
I’ve long been quite conflicted, because I know that the Salvation Army helped my alcoholic father and I’m grateful for that.
I totally get and respect that, and I feel the same conflict from a slightly different angle. But they still actively campaigned against Law Reform (and IIRC the Human Rights Amendment Act) and as my late Nana used to say to me far too often: It's all very nice apologizing, dear, but its much better to have nothing to apologize for.
If the Salvation Army had their way, I'd still be a sex criminal who could legally be sacked or denied housing and services.
That's far too close to home for me to forgive.
And this is why the indifference of networks to commissioning a documentary really pisses me off on a very visceral level.
With the benefit of hindsight, its always easy to fall into the comforting belief that Homosexual Law Reform was someone inevitable.
That's just not true. And if someone doesn't tell the truth -- including the history of Vern Young's bill twelve years earlier -- it not only distorts history but allows complacency to breed. That's not only annoying but dangerous -- because if recent events in the United States and England have taught us anything it should be that nothing -- nothing -- is set is stone.
I read some authority somewhere is thinking of of prosecuting some one for not reporting him
In all seriousness, when I first saw that I thought it was a sick bloody joke.
Add "people who wonder why abused women don't go to the authorities" to the rapidly expanding list of people I'll tell to fuck off for the foreseeable future.
It’s tempting to think his confused and contradictory grab-bag of radical influences pushed him into an act of extreme self-loathing. Or did the fact of a Latin night featuring trans performers trigger some other hatred? I guess we’ll find out more in time.
It's also equally plausible that he was a deeply homophobic straight man who scoped out the scene of his crime for a disturbingly long time, using social media to stalk potential victims and hung around people he hated with an ultimately lethal passion.
I don't know, in the end it may turn out nobody ever really knows what the fuck was going through Mateen's mind because this is real life not television where everything ties up in a neat bow at the end.
But I'm seeing people who are glomming onto "a self-hating Muslim queer did it" with indecent haste (present company very much excluded) because it's a narrative that neatly side-steps hard and ugly questions about homophobia and gun culture.