Posts by recordari

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  • Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible…, in reply to Megan Wegan,

    It's kind of why I love PAS.

    Me too. Hope you don't think my redacted comment was a slight on you. It was actually about how I met my partner of 20 years. Best shared over a wine though I decided. Nothing too sordid, or even much relevant to this thread, but it did involve my saying 'Yeah, nah' at one stage.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible…,

    I do enjoy bringing a note of levity to these very serious conversations.

    Is that allowed? Well, you are special I know, but since you opened the door.

    [Redacted]
    Yeah, nah.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    Was editing my post when the system went down. If it implies anything other than that I agree with this statement;

    My personal take is that the negative side effects of an organisation like Destiny helping people at the very least cancel out the good that they might do.

    then it's not what I meant.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    My personal take is that the negative side effects of an organisation like Destiny helping people at the very least cancel out the good that they might do. YMMV

    Not much actually. My original reply made sense, as long as you didn’t read past the middle of your link. Saved myself the embarrassment of commenting having decided initially ‘TLDR’. The thing that confused me was the earlier premise that an act of evil with a positive outcome had to be causative and direct, but later on in another version it allowed for that.

    Sorry you had to explain things. I actually have thought about this kind of thing a bit myself. Does the end justify the means? Not sure in this case I could agree with that. There is a lot of hatred in the links Russell posted.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…,

    The doctrine of double effect

    [Redacted].

    Need to do some more reading. Interesting, but struggling to see how it fits.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    I wish he could have been supported better by government services so that he didn’t have to turn to a cult like Destiny to make this happen,

    Perhaps this is the crux of it. When people turn to cults, gangs and slot machines to provide some form of hope for a better life, Houston we have a problem.

    That being said, should we forgive people their indiscretions for some perception of a greater good?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Tim Michie,

    If Tamaki does more than dogwhistle the party to vote for might this become an electioneering issue?

    What do you mean by 'become'? I'd say 4 acting or potential MPs turning up to a religious congregation where money was being asked for and tithes being binded was already an electioneering issue.

    ''It felt weird. Weird in a good way.... I don't know, weird is weird.''

    You said it.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Tristan,

    JC did seem to be hectoring a little.

    My first thought was 'that's uncharacteristic' but then I realised you weren't talking about Jesus.

    Carry on.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible…, in reply to nzlemming,

    My point is why do representatives of the state acknowledge any of these cults by attending their events?

    Votes. What other reason could there be? Moral turpentine?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible…, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    At least I know I was.

    +1

    And Emma, you lasted longer than I could. Trevor Mallard went up in my estimation though. How hard is that notion really to grasp?

    Somehow, and I really do think/hope this kind of thing helps, the starting point for these discussions has to change.

    Victim blame is an oxymoron.

    I've noticed this time is a decided sideways shift from victim-blaming on the basis of clothes to victim-blaming on the basis of having had some drinks.

    ETA: Snap-ish. If you start from victim blame, it's pretty much downhill from there, whatever justification you put on it. Living in a monogamous relationship will be next.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

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