Posts by Steve Barnes

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  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    His friends seem oddly blithe about him tipping into a homicidal rage because someone came to his house.
    On other hand, I haven't seen any evidence that the warrant executed at his house was unusual or improper in any way.
    On the other hand people have suggested in this discussion that all search warrants should be executed as if there were maximum peril.

    I consider persecuting people for a victim less crime improper but then I think oppression is a bad thing. And. hey Russell, how many hands do you have?.

    Roid Rage has examples of ths sort of behaviour. Jus' Sayin'

    That must be a really really bad case of hemorrhoids.
    Oh and Grunt. If I were going to run into the line of fire to rescue a mate the last thing I would want is to be carrying a useless lump of metal in my hand. Oh, and another thing. There seems to be a typo in your profile. Its spelt Toytown not Taiwan.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    I assume you'll be able to show where I have criticised any officer of the law or the police in general.

    When is someone going to shoot the criminal so Napier and New Zealand can get back to life?

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    And

    Why are the police, no matter how "unlightly" they work, charging a person for protecting themselves, their family and their property? This case will destroy that family and undermines the economy.

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    Shall I continue? nah, I'd get tired of writing about it.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    And they still have friends after that?

    Of course they do, its... well you know what it is.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    there's very much a "wow" factor associated with telling people that you're involved in that kind of job, and eventually it gets a bit tired.

    That kinda puts a damper on their ad campaign then.
    "Better Work Stories" ? "I'm sorry, I'm tired of talking about it"
    I have friends who work in backroom IT who still manage to meet up with a large cross section of friends and get into riveting tales of ip Addresses and router configurations of breathtaking adventures in fault logs and memory dumps.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    How many of you have a cop in your circle of friends,

    I have a close friend who was a cop for twenty years, he left the job because of the same reasons I have mentioned above, that the general police attitude to the public left a lot to be desired.
    The merging of the traffic police with the main force was a public relations disaster.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    Thank you Kyle, I find that comforting.
    However, I was just talking to my father in law. He had the misfortune to be right behind a car accident last night, apparently a old chap swerved to avoid a slowing vehicle in front of him in the hailstorm and rolled his van. My father in law did all the right stuff, calling the appropriate services, lifting the van off the guy's arm making sure not to move him etc. When the police arrived the first thing they did was, literally, push the people helping the guy out of the way and telling them to "Stop gawking" then stopped all traffic for two hours My father in law was not alone in thinking the police treated those assisting the victim as if they were guilty of something.
    The police must change their attitude, we are not the enemy.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    A major police strategy in the past 20 years has been community policing.

    Much as I would like to think that is true I have yet to see any evidence. I also have a strong supposition that community constables are not held in the highest regard by their fellow officers, I hope I am wrong but...
    Many local police stations only operate during "office hours" and if the Ponsonby station was anything to go by the attitude that the public were anything but a nuisance was more than apparent.
    My point was that greater engagement with the public would allow the police to have a greater understanding of the local community structure, to know who and what to look out for, like nutters with guns etc.
    Community policing may well have been a policy for the last two decades but a major policy it is not.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    Possible scenerio.
    "Hey bro. how come the cops didn't bust you for that ounce eh?"
    "I told 'em Jan was groin' pot"
    "Aw, you devious bastard"
    "Sorted eh?"

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    We don't live in a police state, Steve, much as people like to characterise it otherwise. If nobody informs the police of something, they don't know.

    I think one reason for people not communicating their concerns to police is that the police have created a void between the public and themselves.
    The lack of information given by the police to the public on many matters, the lack of interest shown by the police to genuine complaints. Examples of these points abound. The only reason many people report burglaries to the police is to get a reference number for insurance purposes and on many occasions there is no, or little, followup.
    If you call the police, for anything other than an emergency 111 call, you are passed off to a call center somewhere in the country. This creates a separation between the police and the very people the are supposed to serve.
    When I was back in the UK a few years back I was surprised when I called the police to report a lost wallet. I looked up the number of the local police station in the phone book and was talking to the desk sergeant within seconds. After being asked "how can we help you" I was put through to the local lost property office and spoke to an officer who seemed quite concerned.
    The police service in this country seems to be more interested in empire building and technological bells and whistles, dare I mention INCIS?, rather than supporting the public in maintaining a civilised society.
    The most common contact the public has with the police is when a member of the public needs assistance, which is more often than not given little attention, or when they infringe some minor regulation or act and then treated like a criminal.
    The only real solution to this is not more PR it is engagement that is needed here. You know, like making us feel we are on the same side. The police have to realise that the majority of the public are not their enemy.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    If nobody informs the police of something, they don't know.

    They knew he had a pot plant, aparently. I wonder how they knew that?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

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