Posts by giovanni tiso

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  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to BenWilson,

    I'd hate to see your account blocked :-)

    My blog will suddenly become your most trusted source for over-the-counter Viagra and Cialis. No-one will even notice.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to BenWilson,

    I don't see it anywhere in the html source generated.

    (Makes mental note to do more spamming on PAS.)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to BenWilson,

    No, but links on here will certainly raise its ranking in Google

    I doubt it. Russell would have established a "nofollow" regime in the links coming from this site I presume?

    So if there isn't action (why would there be? Farrar loves his bigoted fascist commentators. They're the core of NACTs voting base, after all) and there isn't governmental enforcement, what other paths are you suggesting?

    I'm not sure why you insist that I or anybody else "suggest other paths". Is it permissible to say that you think that something is wrong even if you don't actually have a way of stopping it from happening? I'm quite partial to communities policing themselves, with as little recourse as possible to censorship or other authoritarian fiat. After all, what it takes is simply for more people to stop tolerating the behaviour in question. If the only people left reading Kiwiblog and contributing to Kiwiblog were those who actually agreed with the sentiments expressed by its more loathsome commentators, the site would be a lot lower in the national blog statistics and Farrar would be considered the blog equivalent a shock jock. But they aren't and he isn't.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    In that case, what is it suggesting? If the author is simply setting out a moral code that he personally subscribes to, it isn't going to change the attitude of others who don't adhere to his code.

    It's a call for action, and the implication that in the absence of action there is no alternative but enforcement is one that you supplied and I doubt very much that the author of the post shares. He is suggesting that bloggers, webmasters, organisations need to take responsibility. I'd add readers, too - we seriously need to stop accepting excuses, and making a point of not linking to sites that allow for their comments section to become as vile as Kiwiblog's would help.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    And when somebody says "you must", I take that as being a call for government to step in and require such censorship.

    Too bad the article doesn't say nor imply any such thing, quite the contrary.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    If people want to read the sewerblog pages, or comment offensively on a public site, or buy the Sunday Star Times, then it’s up to them

    That makes the questionable assumption that hateful speech doesn't hurt anybody, and that if you expose yourself to it, it's your fault.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?,

    A post written with David Farrar in mind. If your website is full of assholes, it’s your fault.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: An open thread while I'm down…, in reply to Dinah Dunavan,

    I do recall my father coming home gray faced after Molesworth street and I realised that his view of NZ police had taken a severe turn.

    I've been meaning for quite some time to write a review of the national police museum in Porirua. Their brochure has a wee section on the Springbok Tour which characterises the role of the force as follows:

    "The police objective was to maintain law and order and ensure that no one died as a result of public beliefs."

    So.Noble.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Field Theory: All Blacks v South Africa…, in reply to BenWilson,

    Yup, but it was just a different game to watch in the second half.

    It was a different game because it was over. If the Wallabies take any heart from having 'won the second half', they're toast.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Field Theory: All Blacks v South Africa…, in reply to BenWilson,

    Which is a pity because Oz actually won the second half.

    By one point. After losing the first half by 17. They got trounced.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

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