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Steve Barnes - eek! Not one of our's but - could be(Mouats here come from a Kai Tahu/Island Scots blend...) Maybe that should be "type in -Mouat/historical murder/habeus corpus"?
Revenge is indeed not synonymous with justice, but I firmly maintain that a family who has had one of their own murdered or severely damaged has a right to say, apropos the convicted person, We lost our whanau member forever - why should you enjoy freedom?
Yep, a lot of families will agree with a parole board decision - but a large number will not. And please note that I wanted family input into the *nature & length of sentence*.
I would suggest the 'monitoring tools and parole conditions' are fairly ratshit at the moment anyway.
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Eeeesh Jackie! Are those really meant to be pounemu *nipples*?!
One of her sisters-in-law once gave my mother a Maori head teatowel
(Tawhiao!) and my mother politely thanked her and put it away in a drawer...she's never used it for anything, natch- and I was given a moko'd Maori head *candle* when I left the Post Office (back in 1972) which still lurks in it's wrapping somewhere. Couldnt burn it - natch - couldnt throw it away... -
O, as an offering of light entertainment value, my whanau includes a person who was convicted of murder with no body being recovered. Criminal lawyers will know of the case - anyone else, type Mouat into Google.
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Steve Parks - the short answer as to how utu would help with the Kurariki case is, it wouldnt. Most of the old system is gone (but things that occaisioned redress are not forgotten.) My tongue was in my cheek when I said I believed in utu - under the law, but I would have sympathy for much more family input & clout into the sentencing of murderers or people who commit extreme assaults. And I would support moves to allow family members to totally block parole of people convicted of these crimes.
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quite right, Matthew Poole: I should've checked the name...Sacha, utu (return/satisfaction/reply etc.) would cease when it was considered a balance had been reached. Also, a tatau pounemu could end an escalating series of utu acts - that is the marriage of a high ranking woman to a highranking man on the other side. It was believed to constitute a lasting peace. (Several high ranking Kai Tahu women were married into Kati Toa at the turn of last century to make a tatau pounemu and heal the after-effects of 'Rauparaha's Raids.' I had the privilege of meeting one of these women, Taua Fan' Gillies, in the early 1980s.)
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He he ;)
this brings us to when are humans responsible for their acts.
We know our brains are more or less mature at 25 (if we're healthy, undamaged = lucky.)
Our law/legal system determines whether we can be found liable for an act (criminal act) -a child can be.I think Junior was 14 nei?)
Me, I find legal matters part of our justice system but - as I've posted elsewhere - justice, equity, and the law are very different matters.
That said, Junior was very much part of a small group that murdered
an innocent young man. In the old days, Junior would be long dead just now - what would you really think is better? Today's justice system?
Or utu?
NB: My personal bias is to utu - under law. -
Just thinking - think some more.
Junior Tuariki was part of a murder. Which is why he went to jail.
A lot of what you are writing, I agree with. The other stuff really is rant.
O, 'rap' unless you were making some quirky pizza-allied pun. -
LASIK is good - but has some risks(you can lose your night vision among other things) and isnt available for high myopes. I look forward to the newer procedures-
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There's wee creditcard-sized mgnifiers Russell - with LED if wished-
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Jojo, I've worn contact lens for nearly 50 years and, believe me, in an emergency you can have the things in your eyes in under 30 seconds...*
I wore glasses that were cumbersome (high myope here), steamed up or broke with readiness (not the lenses - they bulletproof, and hurt my nose. Contact lens meant Freedom! (hey, you can wear the wee buggers while swimming! Actually see where you are going in the water for the first time!) OK, they can get lost with remarkable ease, and dust & other particles can cause quite remarkable pain, but I still love 'em...
*Yeah, I didnt say cleaned or anything-