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As for the position he's got himself into, well,
that position being taking 3 kids he couldn't manage through town with dangerous traffic,
And face it Rob, you turning up just after someone said "Section 92A" was quite funny ...
humor must be on a low ebb round you then russell.
I'm happy to watch you men of wisdom debate with authority all the topics you so clearly understand, but knowing members of masons family and his background I find it less easy than you to write the guy off. you must remember those guys from their punk days in the early eights Russell. the was a pretty rough crowd around them. He's got a family and a wife and probably some issues to work through but I really don't know enough about what happened to pass judgment on him, and judgmental is what I read into some of the comments on here.
You Russell have a little high ground to be judgmental from having achieved a reasonably difficult result, but you'll also know the difficulty of controlling out of hand kids.Maybe I was just moved by the tv puff piece. nice wife, cute kids, dude not down at the pub ignoring them.
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You spake the curse. And now look who's turned up ...
:) I have better things to be doing than getting into a bitch fight on this topic but its an interesting read to see the debating skills go down.
personally I think you're a curse but its your site so curse away.
get back to me when you've clocked 103 pages of meaningless iscussion :) -
by a lawyer claiming something like
my concern here was not so much what the lawyers said but in how it is used in media in an emotive way.
if I was to get punched in the face by mason I would expect at least a broken nose and some serious bruising, a punch is a serious physical assault and using it as a descriptive word gives it that level of power.
I commend and respect Russell for his path which he has just explained above. bloody hard work and the enlightened path it is too.
but I don't know that I can bring myself to believe Mason is a bad man. he may not be as enlightened as other parents, and I know of his family and they've had a rough background so for him even to be in a loving relationship with kids who seem to love him is a major success.I'm not going to hate him for the position he got himself into, I'm not going to adopt his behaviour either, and won't condone it but I'm not going to see it in black and white evil either. its about education,
it'd be good to see Mason get access to the skills he needs to be a loving parent (as he seems to already be), control his kids and do it in a peaceful way. apparently its not as easy as some wish it to be, sometimes. -
what's the definition of a punch in this context?
ps I'm pro anti smacking bill.
I think no amount of physical violence should be used against kids, but what is the difference between violence and force. is it intent?reason I ask is when you colour this quite strong man's actions with the term punch to the face I feel I'm supposed to gauge what a punch in terms of mason is, and then contemplate that in relation to his small child.
mason seems a pretty powerful guy, I'd do what I was told if I was his kid, having said that I'm not out there trying to control 3 children in central city traffic, for what ever reason he got himself into that situation for.
in an argument that is about degrees of force the specific definition of those forces would be all important one would have though otherwise we get emotional hyperbole,
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And if the only and easiest way to avoid the consequences of legislation would be to not use digital media - that would be a sad day.
well there's sourcing the material legally and buying it with department budgets.
That would ensure that you didn't have to rely on youtube vids.
then the only issue you'd need to deal with is playing particular extracts from said material. if scene selection wasn't working for you you'd need to extract it via the telesync option described as it seems (and understandably so) that they don't want to dismantle their working copy protection.As Rob said you're well within copyright laws on most of your cited examples, and yes you are right, its can be presented in a complicated way sometimes and is often not well explained, but it is knowable.
one of the problems I see is that it is easy to work up a hype over this stuff through simple misunderstanding. Many of your examples of possible problems are common myths.
You're certainly not alone in that though, many people who should understand it better still march those misconceptions out to wind up a backlash.I'll quickly try to address your examples.
photocopying. covered by the percentage rule mentioned a few pages ago.
youtube. - if its up there, use it. copyright owners will get it taken down if they object. that system works well at present. playing it in class. that's public performance. no copyright infringement. covered by school public performance agreements.
playing ipod - public performance. no copyright infringement. covered by school public performance agreements.
playing full dvds. public performance. no copyright infringement. covered by school public performance agreements.
clips from dvd. - using the original dvds using scene selection - public performance. no copyright infringement. covered by school public performance agreements.
extracting from dvd. that's where it gets complicated. both technically as you need a lot more skill to achieve this, and legally. There are 3 ways to solve this issue.
1- is for the school to get a machine hat allows for direct timecode access to scenes on a dvd. you just type in the bit you want to play and it plays it. (do these machines exit?)
2- is to dismantle the copy protection.
3- is to telesync the bits you want. this doesn't have to yield shitty results but it does require a one generation copy. ie it is not the same quality as the original. with bluray and a hi def screen and camera it could be really good though so I don't see why the MPAA thinks its a good concession.for your legally purchased material lying around I personally think that format shifting is acceptable, its certainly been practiced for many years as I was employed full time doing exactly that for a university. It was never hidden. but if your concerned about quality then sourcing a remastered version is the way to go.
re schools high speed networks. its not the hi speed part that's at fault, its the lack of monitoring that they are being used for legal university purposes. The central library in chch allows for wifi use. it shuts down large file transfers automatically and disconnects suspicious activity outside of normal browsing. if they can exercise such control over their network how hard can it be for a university to do it.
the warning about peer to peer is correct. bogus files make up a large proportion of bit torrent files. these files direct you to bogus sites to "unlock" the file. for the uninitiated its easy to get caught out and they do lead to sites that try to get you personal details. porn files are mislabled as movie files,
all of those things are risks for the uninitiated. for the seasoned bit torrenter they're no problem though. It may seem over stating it but it depends which ball park you fall in. From my experience uni staff mostly fall into the uninitiated pile. present company excluded of course.
I don't think fair use extents to supporting downloading copyright material. I think it was more meant to extend to manipulating material you have legally obtained.your students views were interesting. the creative commons book was a simple misunderstanding on their part and easily corrected.
and thanks for stepping up and discussing your real world needs. really appreciated it. there isn't as much to worry about as some like to make out. I guess the real issue is making it simple and easy to work within the system and understand it. That's all about education though, and one of the biggest failings of the system, ie not clearly and simply conveying these concepts.
In copyrights defense though many of the commentators to the negative are not quick to get people in to explain it all. its a more controversial story to have half truths floating out there. -
Up for consideration during the 2009 exemption hearings is whether this exemption should be extended to apply to faculty teaching in all disciplines, and whether the exemption should apply to students.
That's the interesting part right there.
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Hi tim, yes that was posted only a few pages back.
as a teacher how do you use and how do you want to use copy protected material from dvd for teaching. we're short on real world examples and would love to hear your requirements.
then editing the resulting footage with VLC.
not sure if vlc allows for editing. its simply a multi file format playback program, and a really good one at that. presumably you'd have to have access and skills with final cut pro, or i movie to trim your material to the parts you needed as you would if you extracted from dvd.
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but air 808 would be a new one.
maybe that's all the guys with their arms folded standing behind the dj.
all step entered drum patterns they did before the show. hit start and watch it play back. -
bang bang sssshhhh
make that bang bang quiet