Posts by UglyTruth
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@nzlemming
The broken links were not from the wiki. Do you have any answer to Blackstone's account of the history of the common law, given that we now have the "dome-book" of King Alfred the Great?
"And indeed our antiquaries and early historians do all positively assure us, that our body of laws is of this compounded nature. For they tell us, that in the time of Alfred, the local customs of the several provinces of the kingdom were grown so various, that he found it expedient to compile his dome-book, or liber judicialis, for the general use of the whole kingdom. This book is said to have been extant so late as the reign of king Edward the fourth, but is now unfortunately lost. It contained, we may probably suppose, the principal maxims of the common law"
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So Ugly heard of Pascals wager or intelligent design?
Yes, but I don't know the details of Pascal's wager.
Using RationalWiki's precis:
"1. If you believe in God and God does exist, you will be rewarded with eternal life in heaven: thus an infinite gain."
Non sequitur. Just rewards are based on works, not on belief.
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power ultimately stems from the barrel of a gun
Not in a democracy it doesn't.
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So, not at all relevant to New Zealand.
Bouvier's dictionary is relevant because both US law and NZ law draw from English law.
You need some more relevant base material.
No, Bouvier's is relevant.
What you don’t seem to understand is how common law came to be
So why don't you read the wiki and then tell me what I'm missing?
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Up Front: Oh, God, in reply to nzlemming,
Ah, those pesky facts. You don’t need them, obviously. And thus your ‘argument’ is proved invalid.
Non sequitur.
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Common law is case law, or precedent, not the entire body of English law.
LOL
I never said that common law was the entire body of English law.
LAW, COMMON. The common law is that which derives its force and authority from the universal consent and immemorial practice of the people. It has never received the sanction of the legislature, by an express act, which is the criterion by which it is distinguished from the statute law….The common law is derived from two sources, the common law of England, and the practice and decision of our own courts.
From Bouvier’s dictionary of law.
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Up Front: Oh, God, in reply to nzlemming,
Oh, dear. I appear to have frightened him off.
Real world kept me busy.
you really need to study how Parliament works rather than cherry pick quotes.
No, I really don't.
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I'm thinking that an alternative system of representaion would be more effective, one where New Zealanders could either participate directly in democratic policy decisions or assign a proxy vote to the representative of their choice. The system wouldn't be party based, and people would be able to change representatives or participate directly at any time.
At the very least it would force the system the respond to the points being raised.
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Some references from after slavery was abolished and women got the vote would be more persuasive
Why? Has anything relevant happened?
The Tom Bennion and NZ Parliament links don't work.
Thanks for that, I'll fix it later.
The NZ Parliament quote can be found at this page.
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It is not compelling, consisting of self-referential one-liners with no reference to external supporting evidence.
They're not self-referential. Just follow the wiki links, eg "References"
External references for http://wiki.actsinjunction.info/Sovereignty/References
http://www.etymonline.com/
Bouvier's 1856 dictionary of law
Blacks dictionary of law, 2nd, 5th, and 8th editions.External references for http://www.actsinjunction.info/nzsov.html
http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/AboutParl/HowPWorks/FactSheets/0/e/7.htm
http://www.bennion.co.nz/mlr/2003/mlr0803.pdf
Commentaries on the Laws of England, William Blackstone
Institutes of the Lawes of England, Edward Coke
Legal Fictions and Common Law Legal Theory Some Historical Reflections, Eben Moglen
Thomas Edward Scrutton, Roman Law Influence In Chancery, Church Courts, Admiralty, and Law Merchant
Rights, remedies, and the impact of state sovereign immunity, Christopher Shortell
London Gazette, 2nd October 1840
http://www.waitangi-tribunal.govt.nz/treaty/english.asp
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/giorgio-agamben/articles/state-of-exception/