Posts by Farmer Green
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Kyle Matthews,
Wow! You sound serious. Americas Cup and political musical chairs are just circus aren't they?
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Kyle Matthews,
One could almost be forgiven for thinking that the Roman Catholic church intends to be catholic "going forward".
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Bart Janssen,
Fair enough.
You cannot say why the consensus can not be wrong. Which was my point- it's a logical fallacy. -
Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Bart Janssen,
a result of forming a consensus of hypothesis
That seems fine, but then what?
Surely the next step is falsification of the Null Hypothesis.
It is knowledge that we seek isn't it-not policy outcomes? -
Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Bart Janssen,
That is consensus at work, it is the way science works
Yep that seems to be the problem.
Now , about that logical fallacy that you were employing-what do you have to say? -
Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Hebe,
data, as we all know, can be framed to fit most any position if the position is determined before the data is gathered.
This point is being hammered by Peter Gluckman who says (of government depts.)-
"worryingly, some officials have limited understanding of the scientific process of knowledge production , or were uncertain about it. They were not clear on how research-based evidence could be used to support policy formation".Something not so good has happened to science education in Godzone , or so it seems.
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Ian Dalziel,
Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.
Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.
“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Bart Janssen,
Once such a consesus is out there then folks arguing are doing so for reasons other than a desire to open minds.
But you do know that argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.
Science is not consensus ; consensus is not science.
Regardless of the issue being discussed, the real issue is usually the lack of agreement on the “rules of engagement”.If logical fallacies are permitted , it’s just a waste of time.
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Islander,
Ae. He kai kei aku ringa.
Po marie. -
Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
But hey, I’m sure they would never be nasty to a Kiwi musician, so they’re the Good Guys, right?
It counts for nothing here, right? Being a Kiwi musician, that is. Toe the line or take the animosity.
So it goes.
But not everywhere.