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has anyone ever been prosecuted for formatshifting/home taping (ie transfering your legally bought item to another format like an ipod or cd for the car?
its often touted that its illegal but does anyone ever get done for it?
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I bet Rob looks nothing like John Donne)
This guy?
put a ruff on you and a bit of beard sculpting and blue light and I think you might pass for him.
what's his relevance? -
bye.
hey....
I was polite to you and I do think its important to expand on your opinion. you represent a sizable chunk of society who holds similar views. I'd like to understand why you hold them, and address them. I wasn't insulting to you anywhere in the previous 2 statements. -
Most musicians I know do have "proper Jobs"
that's an economic reality of a small country.
but furthering your argument are you saying that media should be created for free.
the other side of the proper job argument is that next to none of our talent will develop past what they can achieve in their spare time. and as you'll know spare time evaporates as the years go by."Recording Industry" is a bubble who's time has come to burst
recording industry is a loaded and vague term. who are you talking about specifically. the majors, everyone who ever put note, word or image to tape page or film and all the associated people who contribute to that effort, (equipment developers and makers, to tech staff, to office workers etc etc)?
"Keep Music Live"?
It was run by the musicians union and opposed by the recording industry. It was a reaction to "Disco"I remember musicians trying to battle replacement by discos ie people playing records. I don't remember the recording industry having any objection to it.
Do you remember "Home Taping is Killing Music"?
sure, and the much better catch phrase "home taping is skill in music"
The an order of magnitude difference between dubbing tapes for you friends and a free for all amongst strangers.You want me to buy something? make me want to buy it. Make it better than what I can get for free.
how does your trusty convenience store owner deal with that issue?
security measures.
you want to buy something? pay for it.
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to guarantee someones free lunch.
you lost it there too.
who said it was free. it shows a lack of understanding of what goes into making your entertainment, like it some how magically appears finished on your tv, movie scree, laptop, ipod etc.
while some lunches cost less to make than others, none of them are free.and desist with the tantrums.
what tantrum was that, I had a decidedly big grin on my face as noted by the :) thing.
I'm cool with you expanding on what you see as valid arguments.
you've obviously arrived at your position through some degree of experience and thought and its illuminating to see what that process was.as for no resentment, phrases like "Free Lunch", and "Proper Job" show a little don't you think, maybe not so much resentment as disdain?
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Rob. De nile is not just a river in Egypt
an I was going to apologize for my substandard barney the dinosaur joke, but I can see Dad style jokes are perfectly fine in the present company :)
tell us more about how you resent the people who's stuff you want for free.
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someone who shares your point of view.
while amusing, this has very little to do with my view or the issues I'm concerned with.
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So for the works that you've retained sole control of, where might I legitimately acquire your stuff from, other than you?
I don't have a monopoly on 'songs'. you can get 'song's off other people. some people give them away. some of them are not to your liking.
you don't have to read the bone people, you could read the remaining 6 chapters of that e book,it depends what you are inferring by monopoly. I read it to mean in the way it has been mentioned before in this thread where it is said the 4 major labels own and control a huge swag of material.
There's always new material being made which isn't part of that monopoly yet, and given easy ways to self distribute may well not need to become part of it.
protection of law for that future possibility, (one where the creator manages their own works and receives fair recompense for it) seems a fair thing to ask. -
scrapping of monopolies supported by IP, I think it wouldn't hurt you....too much
I'm not a monopoly, neither is islander, or simon with his collection of rights, or any of the thousands of kiwis that won their own media. we're hard working individuals the posse would like to sweep up in the rush to lynch the unpopular majors.
I tried to read the e book but it didn't really endear itself and with time being so valuable I'd need a better recommendation that you managing to get through 4 chapters :)
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to what degree do you feel the commercial value for rights you hold has been impacted by people providing other content legitimately for free?
not at all.
Firstly my stuff is very difficult to get, so I'm not a good example here.
but as a consumer the fact that its for free doesn't make me like it any more than if it cost money.
people giving stuff away is great, but it also usually indicates that their stuff isn't good enough to charge for either, if it was they'd be doing it.The problem isn't people promoting their stuff with freebies though. Its people having their stuff distributed freely without their consent that is having impact, even at my level.
I recently got some friend requests and comments on a band myspace page saying they loved a certain bands album. The fans were from spain. trouble is that I know where every single copy of said album has gone to so far and none went to spain, let alone 3 copies to spain, so I know for a fact that 3 people who I didn't choose to give the album to love (and consume) said album without paying for it. zero contribution to the project. and this is on a tiny indie level in nz.
I think I know where they got their copy from too. But what ya going to do about it right?