Posts by Farmer Green
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Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to
". . . you take the new data you just gathered during testing and adjust your hypothesis and repeat. Eventually, you end up at a model that fits. "Well , we do hope that this can be achieved , but it is still some way in the future.
" Ok, the prediction models may be wrong, but that’s what science is isn’t it? "
That has been clear for some time. Statements about "settled science " in relation to the GCMs were ignorant at best; lies at worst." The argument is and always has been about whether we humans are influencing climate change or not. It is pretty much universally accepted that global warming is occurring, and has been for some time."
Yes, for about 200 years if the starting point is the LIA.
For tens of thousands of years if the starting point is the end of the last glaciation.
A good thing too.
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Steve B: "Blind fools! Why can't they see? I've got it! I've got The Way!
Doesn't anybody want The Way?FB: "increasingly fewer Steve"
"Disillusioned saviours search the sky
Wanting just to show someone the Way
Asking all the people passing by
'doesn't anybody want The Way' " -
Lovely to see you all here, and to see that you have all survived the climate catastrophe that was summer in Godzone. Choice , wasn’t it? Not too hot , not too dry, and not too long. Quite close to average really. (reality is that it is the autumn equinox in a couple of days time , and there is a stiff southerly sweeping in tonight)
All in all , just what you would expect.
Not if you read the MSM though; it was the end of the world.
So what can be done about this scurrilous mis-reporting?
Damn it all ; they've even got some politicians believing that we should just carry on and adapt (as usual).
Hell’s bells , the peepull could be seriously misled. -
You got that off a site devoted to Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming didn’t you?
You just changed the warming to cooling, but your evidence is every bit as good , I must say.
How are your GCMs working? Got any predictions? -
This is outrageous ; now the MSM are at it. Surely Hard News will seek to put the record straight ; we cannot have the media entertaining the public in this way.
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Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to
Did you read the article? What sort of "adjustment" did you wish to impose?
It said , that IF cooling was occurring, that is what it WOULD look like .
You have not disagreed with that.All short-term trends are meaningless in the context of almost- imperceptible changes over century scales. Even 30 year half-cycles are too short , as we have seen with the PDO.
The empirical data is consistent with a 60 year harmonic overlying a slowly rising trend (since the LIA) or a slowly falling trend (since MWP or earlier WP).
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Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to
Just occasionally one of them says something sensible. Bill English just this week suggested thast adaptation to climate change (should it occur) could be the way to go.
Overwhelming! -
Talking of short-term trends -
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/03/has-the-world-started-cooling-hints-from-4-of-5-global-temperature-sets-say-it-might-have/#more-27430has anyone been out walking barefoot on the grass in the early morning?
The autumn equinox is one week away; we are halfway to the shortest day from the summer solstice (longest day).
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Hard News: When the drug warriors turn, in reply to
<q>But its getting close to the time humanity took a good long look at itself en masse (that’ll be fun)
‘there’s shitshow of that happening’.</q
Well FG agrees with you that it will happen, simply because it must.
He just wonders what sort of a shitshow will cause it to happen ; something fairly exciting he guesses.
Crisis/opportunity. Yes please. -
Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to
"Yes. I don’t think it helps to see them as a hippy cliche."
The comments , from one or two posters, seemed to be fixed on that idea.
Farmerbraun attempted a correction , but may have got nowhere.