Posts by Alfie
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Hard News: Dirty Politics, in reply to izogi,
It was mentioned a lot earlier in this thread. I agree that it's hardly Dirty Politics, but sometimes there's nowhere appropriate to post certain comments.
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to nzlemming,
Really, shouldn’t you have done some fact checking?
Sorry but I've never seen any of his posts here and the name wasn't familiar. His Twitter profile refers to a site which I checked, but there's no website there. A reference in the original post ("Phil... who works for the Electoral Commission") would have been extremely helpful in this case. We don't all move in the same circles.
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to Emma Hart,
“Someone on the internet” is Phil Lyth, who works for the Electoral Commission.
You presumed that the rest of us somehow instinctively knew that. How exactly?
His “friend” is the person who did the translating for the Electoral Commission.
Again, that's impossible to guess from the original tweet. So the person responsible for the error, if indeed there is one, defends his position. Hardly unexpected then.
With still no denial from the government, Winston Peters is now calling for all votes from Hindi-speaking people to be nullified.
While Winnie may be grandstanding, this is surely a simple issue to resolve. It only takes a Hindi speaker with knowledge of the Hindi words for 'New Zealand', 'flag' and 'new'. Is it really that complicated?
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The 1080 case has progressed to a pre-sentence disputed facts hearing in the Auckland High Court to determine whether the offending was financially motivated.
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to nzlemming,
Is this a serious question?
Of course it is. While sub-editing is becoming a lost art on both the Herald and Stuff, Isaac Davison is an experienced journo and it would would have taken less than five minutes for him to verify the facts before putting his name to this story.
In the context of a discussion about possible trickery on the referendum papers, and with no rebuttal from the government some 24 hours later, I'd place more credibility on Davison than somebody's anonymous mate on Twitter. At this stage.
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to Emma Hart,
You might want to hold on and see if that’s actually true first.
I guess for every statement that's ever made, "somebody on the internet" will argue the opposite position Emma. In this case you're quoting a "friend" of somebody on Twitter.
You'd expect a major news organisation like the Herald to have done a simple fact check before running the story, surely? And if Winnie was wrong, wouldn't the government be running denial stories by now?
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Despite the denials from Key and English, things aren't going well for Todd Barclay. Police are speaking to both of his recently resigned electorate secretaries about the "secret recordings" at the centre of these disputes.
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to Matthew Poole,
Given all the other psychological tricks that were apparently played in the guff that came with the ballot papers...
Such as the Hindi translation which adds an extra 'new' to the instructions -- "tick the flag you want to be the new New Zealand flag".
Designed to confuse 100,000 voters? Or just a piss-poor translation of an extremely simple sentence?
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I’m sure we all remember the last election and the National Party running those rowing backwards TVCs using what appeared to be a plagiarised version of Enimen’s Lose Yourself. That incident was especially memorable for Steven Joyce’s comment that he thought the National Party's copyright infringement was “pretty legal”.
Lawyers for the Nats have requested that the trial be into two parts – one for liability and one for damages. If they use the same logic applied to the flag referendum they’ll probably want to work out the damages first, then have another trial to determine guilt.
The parties have been told to sort that business out by March 23.
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