Posts by mark taslov
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Tinakori,
No, that's what it's like when your contribution to the discussion is addled cliche.
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Legal Beagle: Terrorism is already illegal, in reply to Marc C,
will Key’s delegate at the UN Security Council dare raise a voice against Mainland China, when the protesters in Hong Kong get told to go home and shut up, or worse?
That’s highly unlikely. By making themselves enemies of hardworking Hong Kong citizens, protesters have played into the Mainland’s hands.
Bamboo scaffolding four metres high was erected along one major thoroughfare, while groups of demonstrators mixed concrete to pour over the foundations of their road blocks.
Try that in a democracy like New Zealand and you’d be arrested before the cement dries, charged with willful damage and ordered to pay the costs of the clean up. Fighting for democracy and fighting to restrict your city’s transport system can be mutually exclusive pursuits.
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Tinakori,
“Whether they follow through or not, the impact on the day to day life of Hong Kongers will be marginal, at least in comparison to the curtailing of freedoms being carried out in western democracies.”
Eh?
Sorry for the delay I had to go to Hong Kong for the morning, I'm not sure what you weren't clear about but you know usual stuff, a biased media, chances of being arrested on terrorism charges and imprisoned for a month for being too activist, Suppression of terrorism acts, OIA delays, file sharing legislation, Government interference in fraud investigations, search warrants on Investigative Journalists, assaults on protesting MPs by the security detail of visiting Chinese delegates, vote coat tailing, breaches of electoral spending, mass surveillance, arrests on behalf of foreign Governments, as say compared with Hong Kong now, for the past 20 years and into the next decade.
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‘Odd if we don’t’ wins UNSC bid, the world just got a little more normal, impoverished napalmless napalm testers pack lunches in anticipation.
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Chris Waugh,
nicely ambiguous counter to Cui Jian
Yeah the contrast reminds me, perhaps abstractly, of arguments correlating materialism with self-consciousness. Sorry for the delay responding, I realised I’d run out of English above, (open bat*) and needed to take a moment.
One of the most interesting elements of these protests for me is Nickkita’s first pic and the caption stating that teachers are hosting tutorials on the streets. On one hand I’m concerned about the impartiality of what is being taught in the area of social sciences, but on the other hand it strikes me as a pretty damn awesome show of solidarity. .
*straight bat
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Anyway Chris, I appreciated the Cui Jian, if it makes any difference…as something of a response here’s BJ’s Flying Nun influenced Car Sick Cars.
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Seamus Harris,
Yes, what makes things awkward right now is that the CCP, like most Governments, has a tendency of never wanting to be seen to cave to pressure. They are totalitarian, but they also have shown a reasonable capacity to move with the times, but there is as you and Chris have discussed an ingrained fear of humiliation.
Whether they follow through or not, the impact on the day to day life of Hong Kongers will be marginal, at least in comparison to the curtailing of freedoms being carried out in western democracies.
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Seamus Harris,
Wonder if US meddling was a factor in the Scottish referendum?
I think the US played with a fairly open bat there, given the stakes and UKs membership in the Five Eyes alliance.
You might also want to consider that Taiwan’s Sunflower protesters (and their various predecessors) may have provided inspiration to the current movement in Hong Kong.
Seems at least as likely as a U.S. plot to destabilize China by fomenting the dreaded ‘splittism’.
Yes, these are mutually beneficial
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Seamus Harris,
I am a fan of self-determination
In the hopes of a rerail I’m interested to hear more about how you would apply this ideology to the situation Hong Kong Seamus.
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Speaker: “Foreign forces”, hope and Hong…, in reply to Chris Waugh,
We’re stuck in a loop. Seamus as I mentioned above it was Toi Iti who made a fleeting Taiwan comparison.