Posts by Idiot Savant

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  • Up Front: Are We There Yet?,

    Wow, that's quite bizarre.

    It's a relic of sectarian religious division in the early C20th, I think. When it was primarily about Catholic vs Protestant rather than religious vs people who just want to be left alone.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Up Front: Are We There Yet?,

    We've thought that one out. We'd call it Holy Nottrimony or be really sneaky and tell everyone we're getting <airquotes>married</airquotes>

    Thanks to the relationships act, you're effectively hitched after two years anyway. So you have a perfect excuse for a hitching party...

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Up Front: Are We There Yet?,

    As far as the Church is concerned you're married civilly. So the Church wouldn't countanence you breaking the civil law.

    While being quite willing to break the civil law itself by impugning the validity of lawful marriages...

    (That clause is ridiculous and should go, BTW. But that doesn't make the Catholic Church any less hypocritical or arrogant)

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Up Front: Are We There Yet?,

    So, about 2030?

    Try next term or the one after. It takes about ten years overseas for civil unions to bed in enough for marriage to be uncontroversial to everyone but the dedicated bigots. I think people will be doing the numbers the day after the 2011 election to see if its a possibility - and next time Labour is elected (which, barring the party dissolving, will happen sometime) the heat is really going to go on them to live up to their progressive branding.

    Which gives us about two years to draft a marriage (equality) amendment bill...

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Up Front: Are We There Yet?,

    Or convince them that marriage is a state arrangement, and that they rebrand it via their religious communities e.g. a marriage in a Catholic church could be called a "Catholic Marriage" (although the legal paperwork would still be the same). They could even issue supplementary (and legally inconsequential) paperwork if they want.

    Hmmm - that arrangement seems familiar. Oh, that's right - it's what we have now.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Up Front: Are We There Yet?,

    Whereas here, pretty much anywhere will do, provided you have a registered celebrant and say the words.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Hard News: Some Week,

    Andthanks to a National closure motion, they're now sitting past midnight. And its still Wednesday in there.

    If this goes on much longer, the Great Race of Yith will have to turn up to clean up the mess...

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Hard News: When that awful thing happens,

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Hard News: That Buzzing Sound,

    Dagon the Three Eyed FrankenFish.

    I think the Elucidated Order might want to be having a few words with you.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Hard News: That Buzzing Sound,

    I'd quite like to know what's actually in that. Pity.

    So would I. But the whole point of abusing urgency like this is to stop us from knowing until it is too late.

    OK, so in this case we'll be getting a select committee process. But there'd be a far better public debat eif it was consulted on, introduced a week in advance, and then debated without urgency.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

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