Posts by Che Tibby
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if anything, this comments chain has shown that coffee isn't snobbery, it's a lifestyle.
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my man and I used to frequent Expressoholic
you had a valet?
how c19th of you.
my first cup of chino was the city limits cafe, wakefield st, 1987.
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There was actually, I think the Havana boys opened Midnight Espresso in 1988 or 89, Wellie coffee culture took off very quickly from there.
we've had this argument here before.
filter-coffee houses started in wellington in the 1950s, and converted across to expresso machines in the early to mid-80s.
by the early 1990s there were a few well-recognisable places that are still there.
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plenty of punters used to ask for a "cup of chino".
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even small towns in Texas and Louisiana have wonderful food.
there was a place in east texas i went to that served catfish and fries. the closest i could get to fish and chips...
damn good with plenty of hot sauce.
and jim, forget the finishing school. they don't teach you to recognise when someone has put a little love into what they're making for you.
the main problem with your argument is assuming that fast food has well-served the masses. but it hasn't. if anything, it's taken the ability to cook out of the hands of most of the population, and moved it to spotty students following a gantt chart.
and 10 points to someone who can name the cook-by-numbers method macdonalds and other fast food places follow.
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Am I led to believe that SB's global dominance has been based on selling crud?
never underestimate the selling power of three tablespoons of sugar in 300ml of milk, lightly flavoured with coffee.
jim, you're a well-done steak kinda guy, aren't ya?
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You get decent coffee in Whangarei for chrissakes.
i had a damn good coffee in dargaville during the summer before last.
and not a starbucks within 100km.
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i should add that i don't hate starbucks, but neither do i buy their product.
actually, this chain makes me think of some of my first coffee experiences. back in 92 i was working at a place called 'expresso love' on ponsonby road. there the trick was not to pull a perfect crema, but instead to froth the milk stiffly, with many small bubbles.
the cappacino could then have a *pile* of froth on it, like a little cinnamon-dusted pyramid.
now there's a retro something i'm looking forward to rolling around again.
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why choose to patronise a foreign-owned chain which is not good at making the only thing it ought to make well?
patronise them if what you want is "a coffee-flavoured beverage".
on the subject of snobbery though, i think 'snobbery' is prefering something because you think it's better than other alternatives.
the thing is though, we don't merely think our coffee is better, we think it's normal. starbucks have in effect introduced an inferior product to a market that has established a minimal benchmark.
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opened access to gourmet coffee for the rabble
jim, all due respect man, but those few words are wrong on so many levels i'm not sure where to start.