Posts by Yamis
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I say "him" because only a bloke would be stupid enough to have allowed a stadium to remain standing in a blooming suburb for so long.
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Why don't we have a referendum on whether or not there is a god?
And if there is one we can ask him to build us a waterfront stadium on time for the next world cup.
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Doing a few more assumptions re 2 AB tests, 6 Super 14 games, 6 ANZNPC games, a Kiwi test, 2 ODIs, 2 rock concerts you might be looking at something in the region of 30 million dollars in ticket turnover in one year.
A good year with Blues making the semi and final at home and likewise the NPC team and more along to watch each of them, plus more rock concerts and other events and you could be lloking at 40-50 million in ticket sales.
Throw in all the associated money people spend and the figure could be anything from 50-100 million a year in money floating around due to the waterfront stadium.
But does anybody get the feeling this is done and dusted and Eden Park will get its absolutely absurd upgrade in its absolutely absurd location and in a couple of decades we will be having the same discussion once again witht he only difference being the pricetags being quadrupled??!!
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500 million bucks.
Lets crunch some numbers for people wondering if it's worth it.
60,000 people paying on average 100 dollars for a tri Nations test or WC test or Lions test or whatever at least once a year equals 6 million dollars.
That's right. 6 million dollars for one game. Twenty years of AB tests and there's been a turnover of 120 million and that is only looking at the price people paid for one game each year. Sure there are running costs for the venue but how about throwing in money spent of food and drink in teh stadium and the surrounding shops, restaurants, public transport, hotel rooms etc and we are looking at HUGE dollar returns to those investing, whether they be stadium owners, teams using it, councils, rate payers and whoever else.
You would probably be looking at a ticket price turnover in all reality of 20+ million each and every year. In WC year if it was up and running and it sells out 4 times thats in the region of 25 million from 4 saturday nights.
We aren't even looking at naming rights, corporate packages or anything.
Anybody out there able to adjust my figures? I;m no expert but they seem feasible??? No?
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I'm doing my best Tony but some people!!!!!
I was saying that Carlaw Park should have been redeveloped to be the number one stadium in Auckland years back when the Auckland Rugby league went tot he ACC and asked them if they would get behind it.
Unbelievably they said stuff off and so the ARL had plans drawn up for a retirement village.
And now low and behold the same council is pointing to it saying "look, we can build there instead"!
to those who think we can't take any domain land I suggest you go walking round the back there. It's weed infested no mans land that nobody ever sets foot in. It would be missed about as much as a 5 inch boil on your backside.
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In 30 years time though when Auckland has 2 million people are we STILL going to be putting up with a suburban ground housing our countries biggest sporting events with people moaning and groaning about how inconvenient it is to get in and out?
For the odd test match Auckland would have got 100,000 in there if we had a big enough stadium in the right place. Time to move on. If they can knock down Yankee Stadium to build a new one over the road they can knock down Eden Park ten times over.
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Aucklanders have proved themselves over the years to be very unloyal and disinterested in their Provincial sports teams. Indeed I believe every time they have lost the Ranfurly Shield it has been in half empty stadiums, where the Challengers had as many supporters there as the A Team.
Us Aucklanders are just clever. We stopped going to watch our NPC team long before everybody else stopped going to watch theirs this year.
Seriously though, if the Blues do well they would damn near fill it for a Super 14 semi, and almost certainly fill it for the final. They would fill Eden Park now and with a better stadium that is easier to get to they would have no problem getting 60,000.
There's a slight problem though. They are rubbish.
I can't see the Kiwis ever filling it. Maybe they could get 30,000 if they were going well and we were playing Aussie in a Tri-Nations final or WC final.
If we ever get to co-host the football WC with Aussie we could go close to filling it with the right match.
Test cricket obviously won't get near filling it unless we suddenly start thrashing Aussie by an innings and 300 runs with regularity. One dayers might fill the area of seating they would use (ie. 45,000) for a game v Aussie and if the atmosphere was awesome and hype big enough they could possibly go close now and then for other games.
The only other possibilities that I can see for filling it would be for the odd big rock concert. BDO wouldn't work there because they need multiple stages.
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The New York one was never built as it was not wanted by the local popluation (the people who were coughing up a lot of the dough and would have caused transport chaos. Even though it would have its own subway terminal, 75,000 people will snarl up any system.
The Seoul World Cup Stadium built for the 2002 football world cup seats 64,000 and has its own subway station.
Having been through it on game days when it's been soldout for various internationals I can honestly say that it doesn't get anywhere near snarled up.
I've also been to other large stadiums in Korea which don't even have subway stations servicing them and people get in and out just fine. All you need is space on the approaches to the entry points.
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I actually thought we were quite shabby in a lot of parts with handling and option taking (ie. aimless kicking and poor kicking) and there is still a lot of improvement in the side.
And we won 47-3. Ridiculous stuff. France were poor but in previous decades that may have been a close game.
Strange game. We had very little ball and very little field position but scored every time we got the ball in the second half.
I'd still like to see a slightly different game plan from us. We are honing this attack from everywhere style but there may come a time when we need a plan b which involves playing for field position and keeping it tight so would be good to see us display these skills as well, just in case we suddenly need them in a rainy WC semifinal with the opposition sticking it to us, a couple of injuries and the ref doing us no favours (worst case scenario stuff but it happens).
They do it to an extent but it's kind of hard case how Carter will kick for the corners when we are around the halfway area but when we are deeper in our own half there is more of a tendency towards running. Doesn't quite make sense to me.
Awesome team though. We could send two sides to the WC right now and they would probably meet in the final.
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I was thinking the other night in bed (I know, beds are a place of action not thinking) that we should pick our best side for once but then once I started to go through it I couldn't think who our best players were in half the positions because there are several players of roughly equal ability.
Clear owners of positions are Hayman, Mealamu (but not by much), McCaw, Collins (though he isn't that far ahead of the likes of Masoe), Carter and Mealamu (at fullback).
Other spots are anybodies for the taking. One prop spot is up for 3 or 4 players, we have about 5 or 6 locks who aren't leaping ahead of each other, a number 8 spot that is So'ialo's or Masoe's or possibly Lauaki if he pulls finger, halfback has Kelleher or Weepu who are both bloody good, our second five and centre combo is unknown to us and the selectors it seems though Mauger is a likely starter at 12 while on the wings we have arguably the four best wingers in the world to pick from.
We will know who the selectors are looking at when they pick the Paris side but they would be hoping to create more problems with more competition for those who at this stage are dead certs.