The 'elite private school' that eventually bowed to pressure to allow pupils to wear the hijab for one day only
They backtracked this morning (as in, not just one day any more)
I ran that news story past my daughter when she got home yesterday. Without being told, she guessed the name of the school on the first try.
I love the way the Principal was (yesterday) saying that "visible religious items" were not part of the school uniform, apparently unaware of the crosses, mitre, and several others on the school crest ... proudly embroidered on every student's blazer.
I don't want to call conspiracy, but the previous news article seems to have vanished from RNZ's website. this was the link (now 404)
For all the kids who vote the same as their parents ... there will be plenty of kids who vote differently to their parents
What we want of course is kids to vote the same when that is the right thing to do, and differently when that is the right thing to do, and for them to , er, have the wisdom to decide the difference.
... school included democracy training...
My daughter has been griping for years about [the lack of] this. Actually what we could do with is some kind of compulsory "general studies" course that continues into the NCEA years. A week of law, another week of economics, politics, budgetting ... all this stuff that many would say that parents should be teaching their children but usually can't. (Hell, I don't know very much about law myself, and even in my own fields of expertise, that in itself doesn't mean I would be a good teacher).
Direct democracy (participating in decision making) is also different to representative democracy (picking the people to make the decisions for you). Rationally looking at a politician's track record and determining if they can be trusted, instead of being swayed by rhetoric, is a developed skill.
I suspect there will be more kids who vote climate emergency or other long-term issues than their parents do
As I'm sure it applies with 18+ although I can't just lay my hands on evidence in 5min searching. The general election results are too crude to determine this kind of thing since they can only distinguish voters by their electorate.
I've meet 30-year-olds who we probably shouldn't include
I've often wished that people had to answer a test of general political awareness before they are permitted to vote. Unfortunately I imagine that such a test is far more subvertable than the current process of attracting votes by campaigning.
I'd probably enjoy reading such a quiz if someone wants to make one. Just for fun, you understand.
Q1. This test contains difficult words. Can you read?
I'm not supporting giving votes to 14-17 year-olds because I think they'll vote a particular way.
Nor do I. I'm just observing that our best efforts have gone into helping our children become independent thinkers, and this has resulted them in choosing support for exactly the same party I vote for. In fact the older one has joined said party. Naturally I think this proves they are sane, but I would, wouldn't I?
I support this because I think they should be allowed to have a say in the future.
On the other side of this thread: our daughter's school has this morning sent out an official response to the "strike". To paraphrase, they will grant students with a provable track record of "significant, on-going environmental involvement" permission to attend the rally. All other students will be considered bunking off with the corresponding blemish on their attendance record.
This is considerably more supportive than what I expected, which was more along the lines of "we understand why you want to do it and good on you but don't" ... which as a responsible parent is my official line. My daughter also understands the unofficial line that she is an independent thinker and can make her own decision for her own reasons - and will receive supportive hugs either way!
I do not know what policy changes they seek
Call me a cynic but the majority of them don't and won't know. However this does not devalue their purpose or sincerity, they could reasonably expect that the Government has resources to get the advice of experts.
As to voting at 14, I'll be cynical again and wonder if anyone has done research into the correlation of 14-17 year-olds' voting preferences with that of their parents. It's not the best argument for enfranchising this age group , but at worst the voting preference of parents with teenagers will get a small boost.
But being influenced into voting 'imperfectly' is hardly limited to any age or gender. (To avoid a modern form of Godwin's Law, I will not mention a certain referendum held in the UK in mid 2016)
I'm sorry Walter I missed the inference there.
Sorry for coming back a day later .. this is the problem with keeping comments too short.
What I meant was that you don't need "an argument for treating men who have transitioned to women as women". They literally are women at that point. It's not recognising this that needs justifying, and good luck finding a way of expressing that argument without sounding bigoted.
I would hope the majority of the people reading this already understand this, and the thread has moved on anyway.
treating ... as women
Given this is entirely the point, it doesn't seem to need arguing.
gee, a 30,000-capacity ground in the city would be great.
I also get the arguments FOR a bigger stadium, but Eden park's existing financial troubles don't inspire me to believe that it wouldn't be an even bigger white elephant.
Ironically, while I have zero interest in rugby, I have quite a bit in music, and also in architecture ... so have to admit that an iconic waterfront stadium able to host the likes of Adele might possibly be a good thing. But would a few concerts be enough to pay back the massive investment? I doubt it.
I've been to events at 1200-seat venues with 40 in the audience, and similar concerts that packed a 400-seat venue, which would seem to be clear evidence that the size of a place is not an important contributor to its success.
I'm a middle class straight white guy with a bike I hardly ever ride ... so I can only nod in clueless agreement and keep to a simple "thanks" also. I did feel the need to read this post (and some of the comments out loud) to the entire family, and the females in the audience nodded too, no doubt much more cluefully.