looks like a good sized crowd! At least there wouldn't be any waiting for the port-a-loos........

Sounds like a good idea to me; gigs that are over by 11pm would mean you could get home at a reasonable hour in time for work the next day.

Ah, those were the days ...

so maybe an 11 o'clock swill? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_o'clock_swill

The fact that there might already be businesses or residents there doing whatever, doesn't prevent someone stepping in, building stuff, and then pointing to the zoning laws and saying "um, you can't do that anymore".

I always think of these lovely 'old' dears who moved into new apartments in Parnell and then used to complain constantly about the noise, music and general sounds of happiness floating up from the bar I was working at - surely zoning is guided by existing use in cases like that?

I can see an argument for some kind of noise control after a certain time in locations that in close proximity to dwellings, but what's so noisy about Kingsland that it has to shut down at 11pm ?

I think Kingsland is a designated "zone" under the proposal, which does seem kind of strange in that it is highly residential...

To be fair some of the bars in the Kingsland strip do get fairly noisy well in to the night. I work shift work and it's not uncommon to hear the "doff doff doff" until 2 or 3 am when I'm getting up - not that it worries me, but it sure pisses off my partner who is still in bed. It was our choice to live so close to the action though....

books - how about this http://www.bookcouncil.org.nz/writers/lawsmichael.html