Muse: Hooray for Wellywood (Really!)
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Ah, so by Wild at Heart they mean Arseholes. It’s so obvious when you explain it like that.
And there I was thinking "Wild at Heart" was a reference to landing there, scary sometimes, well, most of the time actually.
ETA And. The thought of turning round and coming back the other way so the terrified passengers on the other side of the rattling plane can see how that sign is blowing in the gale force winds could put me off visiting Wellington forever.
Still, saves having to build a roller-coaster.
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@Andin: If I can avoid slandering people, could you please avoid making dodgy insinuations about the recreational proclivities of people who might be feeling more than usually tetchy (and litigious) at the moment?
@Gio. You might want to be a little more precise in your use of terms like "plagiarise". Would also note that the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is rather prone to making legal threats, but as I understand it they're on rather shaky legal ground here if they want to get beyond rather bog-standard sabre-ratting. Sill, nice to know there are some evil Yankee arses we should kiss after all. To be entirely self-interested, perhaps the HCC would like to give intellectual property/trademark specialists A.J. Park and ask for my sister -- she'd love the work. :)
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giovanni tiso, in reply to
Would also note that the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is rather prone to making legal threats, but as I understand it they're on rather shaky legal ground here if they want to get beyond rather bog-standard sabre-ratting.
Are you an expert on the litigation record of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce now? It must be handy for the weekly pub quiz. But yes, sure, for "plagiarise" the well-disposed person may feel free to read "ever-so-creatively appropriate". Whatevs.
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Sacha, in reply to
Still, saves having to build a roller-coaster
I'm imagining a horizontal bungy across the approach path, for jaded thrill-seekers.
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Sacha, in reply to
You might want to be a little more precise in your use of terms like "plagiarise".
I think we're all familiar enough with what it means to copy someone else's idea rather than have a new one of our own. It won't come down to legal arguments but to the airport company realising that this is poisoning the value of their expensively-crafted community goodwill - and then councillors and others having a quiet word with Infratil behind the scenes to find some face-saving alternative.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Are you an expert on the litigation record of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce now?
Of course not – after turning off Safe Search and looking for pictures of phallic garden ornaments the interwebz broke. Now, I’m NOT claiming any bloody expertise in a legal bog like trademark/intellectual property law. (If I was, you'd be running up quite a tab.) What I’m suggesting is that it might be wise not to presume the HCC has a slam-dunk case because you very obviously think the other side are a pack of douche-orcs.
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giovanni tiso, in reply to
What I’m suggesting is that it might be wise not to presume the HCC has a slam-dunk case because you very obviously think the other side are a pack of douche-orcs.
I'm not interested nor indeed qualified to quantify the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce's chances to prevent Wellington Airport from ripping off their sign. I'm just interested in calling this particular spade a spade.
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Ngaire BookieMonster, in reply to
*frivolous aside*
(the d is silent).
For me, thanks to these four small words, it's now referred to as "Wellywoo", and will be forever and ever.
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Leaping back a bunch of pages, can I just add my name to the list of those enamoured with the new Sherlock. Loved it! So much so in fact that I ordered the DVD set from Amazon UK the other night (free shipping! Hooray!). I found it completely delightful.
Back to the Wellywood sign.
While initially I didn’t much mind either way – I wasn’t horrified by it like many people were – I find that the attitude of TPTB at Wellington Airport has really turned me against the idea.
It’s the whole “We’re considering your feedback – but we’re going to go ahead with it anyway” attitude. Like, in what way are you even pretending to “consider feedback” if you’re planning to ignore all negative feedback and do it anyway?
That, and the fact that, as mattgeeknz (hi Matt!) mentioned earlier in the thread – it doesn’t just have an affect on those living nearby. Physically it can be seen for miles – from many places around Welli – but even more than that – the word “Wellywood” itself encompasses all of us who live here, whether we like it or not. As there are so many people who don’t like it, I think Wellington Airport need to take that into account and act accordingly. Otherwise, who died and made them king?
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Tim Hannah, in reply to
It won’t come down to legal arguments but to the airport company realising that this is poisoning the value of their expensively-crafted community goodwill – and then councillors and others having a quiet word with Infratil behind the scenes to find some face-saving alternative.
Thing is, that's what most people thought was happening last year. The whole "we'll consider your feedback and alternatives" was so obviously a face saving gesture. Except apparently it wasn't.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
I always liked the nuclear-free Wellington sign - now in the Wellington Museum of City and Sea, it was rescued from a skip before being displayed, hence why it is snapped in half. It was located next to the main road beside the runway so you were in no doubt that it was directed at tourists and was on airport-owned land
It was, sadly, a victim of misguided cargo cultism on the part of a certain ex-Mayor and her cohorts. The justification given was that the sign would offend the 'wealthy Americans' that she had wanted to attract to Wellington. Somehow she'd never heard of The Other Steve.
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Quite -- would be very interested in seeing the 60 minute tabloid-enraging pilot version of 'A Study in Pink' -- which is an extra on the UK-US DVDs but wouldn't assume would wash up in R4. (For that matter, I'm still pissed the backdoor pilot of Being Human isn't on the series one DVDs.)
Dilemma of the modern age: I blundered by watching the pilot first, I'm unsure in what order to tackle the three aired episodes, any suggestions welcomed!
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<i>Dilemma of the modern age: I blundered by watching the pilot first, I’m unsure in what order to tackle the three aired episodes, any suggestions welcomed!</i>
Oh, you really need to stick to the air order because (spoilers sweetie!) 'The Great Game' ends on one hell of a cliffhanger that's pretty nicely set up in 'A Study in Pink' and teased out in 'The Blind Banker'. Would be interested to know what you think of the pilot though. I understand it's the same story as the aired version, but I understand the BBC thought the storytelling and character development felt a bit rushed.
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he and a few friends had been ready to move to New Zealand in the late '80s because they were so enthused about our anti-nuclear stance.
I asked him what stopped it - he said it was when he realised there was no branch of Apple here.
Which begs the question... Why have successive Governments failed to attract such companies to our shores?. It's not as if we are an ugly place to do business. Had we not sold off Telecom and had invested in UFB earlier things may have been different but still they talk of selling off infrastructure assets. Fools.
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Sacha, in reply to
Why have successive Governments failed to attract such companies to our shores?
We're too small a market?
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Would be interested to know what you think of the pilot though. I understand it’s the same story as the aired version, but I understand the BBC thought the storytelling and character development felt a bit rushed.
Despite obvious differences in the premise, following Guy Richie's macho update effort a few years back, I feared the worst.
A minute in I was moaning at blasphemous name dropping. Five later I was hooked, it was bloody brilliant; dark, claustrophobic, paranoid (no unfiltered daylight shots throughout as I recall). As a lifelong fan I'd even suggest the rushed character development was a plus, it also necessitated some pretty fantastic yet brutally economical writing and staging. Thanks a lot for the heads up on the running order Craig, much appreciated.
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recordari, in reply to
We're too small a market?
Geographical distance may play a small part too. How does Argentina fair on the international stage?
According to IMF, New Zealand 24th, Argentina 62nd in nominal GDP per capita. Yeah, not comparing apples with apples, or even perhaps fruit, but they don't have any complaints on the population front (40m).
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I thought the building above the proposed sign used to be used by Civil Aviation, and then was bought by the the airport and leased to Jackson's Wingnut Films. Barrie Osbourne used to have an office up there. It might be why the big wigs in Miramar have kept a noticeable silence on this one.
Personally, I'll be aiming to sit on the other side of the aircraft when using Wellington's airport. It could lead to issues onboard aircraft when frequent fliers refuse to open their blinds so as to avoid looking at the abomination on the way in or out. Tourists, on the other hand, might not be able to get past the view of gorse, aviation tank farms, disused wharves and gang pads before they even get to stupid sign.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
We’re too small a market?
Like I said somewhere else, "The world is your lobster"
I'm sure "Apple" wouldn't contemplate manufacturing in such a highly paid environment but they could sure use some of that old Kiwi ingenuity software wise. With good networking capability, ie. "UFB" and a good pipe offshore, we could'a been a contenduh. -
Tom Beard, in reply to
It was located next to the main road beside the runway so you were in no doubt that it was directed at tourists and was on airport-owned land
I can't be 100% sure, but if it was located where the current tame replacement is, then it looks like it was on either road reserve (i.e. Council land) or, since it's next to SH1, NZTA (formerly Transit NZ land).
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Don't want to be too much a negative nelly with all the Sherlock drooling, but halfway through the second one now, the casting is great, characters fun and camerawork just so modern and zippy BUT I can't help but think the whole thing is like an extended episode of Castle or Monk or something with just as many silly plot holes. A bit shallow for me but then maybe I'm missing the point.
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Well. What do I know? EP 3 was a big improvement- an involving story and an excellent villain in Moriaty. Good dialogue- starting to find out more about Sherlocks character and motivations. Great fun. I want more.
Still say EP2 was a bit shit though.
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