Yellow Peril: Are you gonna liberate us girls from male, white, corporate oppression?
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precisely
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merc,
Bring on the empty horses!
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Manakura, I have on rare occasions emailed a few like-minded people in hope they will comment on particular bad threads, and sometimes it works. But I kind of feel like it's cheating. Not sure why.
On the cats vs dogs issue - I can see downsides in both. Cats would be all "yeah, I'm busy, what do you think your hands are for?" but dogs would probably be total over-promise-ers. I think donkeys would be much better.
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Manakura, I'd be all in favour of more female or, indeed, non-white-boy voices basically everywhere I hang out on the internet - but with that said, I'm not sure that specifically asking blogs to include more female or minority-sourced comment is going to yield the best results.
As an analogy, I play the drums. New Zealand had, for a while, a drum magazine run out of Wellington called Drum Connexions, for which I wrote a couple of articles. It was well intended, and edited by a nice lady called Bron who lived over in Wainui with her son, who's a killer drummer. One of the things the magazine would do every month was feature a piece on a female New Zealand drummer, who'd invariably get stuck in a little photo box-out on the cover with the caption "You go girl!" and a first name.
In theory, that's very nice - I mean, I'd love to see more women playing the drums. There's a distinct lack of them, and there's good reason for it: a lot of gender discrimination from musicians, a lack of teachers who're really inclined to push the girls towards the instrument, a lack of female role models on the instrument, peer pressure from other girls who don't get why they'd want to play a "Boy's instrument" etc. There's Meg White, but she can't play. And there's amazing players like Terri Lyne Carrington or Susie Ibarra - but no teenage girls have even heard of them, because they play jazz.
Combine that with the fact that even if you include the boys NZ isn't exactly overflowing with world-class drummers and the result was something I always saw as extremely patronising and hard to look at, albeit unintentionally - some poor teenage girl getting an interview and photo on the cover of a magazine next to a top-tier player like Steve Smith, yet obviously being utterly clueless and not knowing how to hold her sticks. That does nothing for girls in drumming, good intentions aside - if nothing else, it just re-enforces existing stereotypes about girls and drumming.
So while more content from women or minorities is wonderful in my book, I don't think you can just insist on an equal quantity and hope that it'll all work itself out - it has to come to whoever is going to publish it at a comparable level of quality. Different is good, but worse isn't. So while emailing Russell and asking for more french-Canadian black islamic lesbian chinese acrobat blogs might strike a theoretical blow for equality, if nobody fitting the demographic is offering him any decent content I don't think it's going to do much that's actually positive. And you reckon he wouldn't publish it if it were on offer?
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dogs would probably be total over-promise-ers
yeah totally, they'd be all japanese and never say no and remain really polite no matter how stupid your request... and then just not do it.
Finn of course you're right. i once worked with a jewish lesbian one-armed fur seal and she was hopeless. employed on some kind of affirmative action program. all the guinea pigs hated her.
but that's not to say there isn't merit in fostering an environment that's as conducive as possible to promoting a diversity of opinions (i know you weren't suggesting that, i'm just saying myself... squeak squeak). ultimately doing that would still lead to even better content, but just forcing it would indeed lead to poorer content. -
hey, i'm all for being called up to cause a little mayhem on someone's blog, in the name of fostering diversity. where do i sign up??
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f'schizzle!
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Yeah, I know. That WoW thing I posted is bogus. I knew it. Sure I did. I mean, it was on the intarweb wasn't it?
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merc,
Maybe we are all bogus?
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for the benefit of all involved, i am calling a final theatre
(hint: check under Verb)
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merc,
Dude, you are all powerful and I accede to the Final Theatre!
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nice one Che. m and I want 50/50 royalties, but you can have 25% of his if you like.
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merc,
Come on R. we ain't in this for the moola, we in for the mojo. Anyway 25%, where you get off cutting me out of my 25%, you think I'm funny, funny how...
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there's still the chance an editor might ixnay it.
we'll rely on the power of archbishop brown.
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oh don't quibble m, you're in it for the mojo.
the PA link was broken, so i added in a bit of etymology too.
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sweeeet. two contributors will keep the filters off our backs.
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merc,
That's it man, now you gonna be coming for the whole money, you and Che, who is already onto me (ref Che blog), that THEATRE! creation, that was pure man, now it's all messed up and lawyers coming and all and then Wiki Editors of The Dark Lord, I'm going back man, back to the country and, from now on , everything I do goin to be funky.
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the good Bishop Russell will protect our humble entry
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here you go m, relax man. don't get all up with that money and the man and shit.
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merc,
Thanks man but I'm Experienced and I seen this kind of thing before, next you going to want to use the money for a Harley n stuff, then you and Che'll want a reunion gig with maybe Hadyn or HamishM on vocals, I'm happy in the factory you know, at peace there.
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no way man - i'm using my share for an ecovillagepeople refuge. and che will, like, use it for one too. and stuff.
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Maybe we are all bogus?
Or do you mean bogans - I hear there's money in that these days.
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screw that man, i'm buying a new porche and like, torching it on lambton quay.
they can stick their money.
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reunion gig with maybe Hadyn or HamishM on vocals
No way man, I've split that scene.
I'm Moving to the country, I'm gonna eat me a lot of peaches.
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merc,
Now the real deal comes out, I gotta take heed of my horoscope man. Bogan! Who you calling a bogan? Me? You calling me a bogan? Bogan how?
And R. whatchumean by 'n stuff, I'm watching you now man, you Guinea Pigs, especially you shaved ones, always looking to get more wood shavings and a new wheel, you can't handle the wheel.
The Colonel said you guys would do this and he was right.
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