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  • A S,

    I agree with you Russell, I just didn't manage to write it particularly clearly. I fell into the trap that other posters have also fallen into referring to Tuhoe as a homogeneous entity, which isn't correct. I'll be more careful in future.

    It is a shame this more moderate message doesn't make it into the mainstream consciousness, I could more easily support a desire for realising local goals that focus on positives.

    It really is a shame that so many of those claiming to represent Tuhoe cannot bear in mind the impact their actions have on the rest of their iwi, and on the way all Maori will be perceived after all of this comes to rest (and I also include the way many Maori are likely to look at each other after this).

    Wellington • Since Nov 2007 • 229 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Sorry kyle ;-)

    What do you want from me? Ten Hail Marys?

    Bloody Marys would suffice although any other form of cocktail maybe suspect.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4613 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    here's the tv on demand link for close up,

    close up 12 nov tame iti interview??

    Check out the eating media lunch style interviewer and his pen, the weird cutting of interview/translation/question, the interviewers superior knowledge attitude, Iti's barly controlled smirk, and if its include host paul's bizarre look after the interview.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • InternationalObserver,

    is it too early to call "theatre" on all these threads? Can't we just agree that all these problems can easily be solved if we re-introduce Conscription? A wooden rifle, some bush training, and a bit of military discipline should sort these radicals out ...

    Since Jun 2007 • 909 posts Report Reply

  • Sara Noble,

    Yeah my devout socialist uncle once tried to join the territorials. they wouldn't have him because he told them that his intention was to get the training then go join the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. I think the long hair was a give away. Sadly, I doubt the Sandinistas would have had much use for him either.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2007 • 127 posts Report Reply

  • commie mutant traitor,

    When you're talking about 'killing white people for practice', stockpiling guns and honing your ability to ambush cars then you're the sort of person the police should keep a very close eye on

    Sure, I have no problem with keeping an eye on them; very sensible. Armed raids and locking them up without trial for a month is another matter altogether, especially when only 5 at most of the 17 were making such threats.

    Since Nov 2007 • 22 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    Sure, I have no problem with keeping an eye on them; very sensible. Armed raids and locking them up without trial for a month is another matter altogether, especially when only 5 at most of the 17 were making such threats.

    as much as I think the core of the people involved in this stuff are idiots who deserve the full scrutiny of the law, what's the hold up. isn't swift justice part of the process. why 18 months till the cases can be heard.
    if its clogged law courts then surely throw some more resources that way. There is no excuse for sitting people in jail without being charged. isn't the american Gtmo example reason enough to pull finger and make these things happen at a reasonable pace.

    Maybe the accused could get fair go to sort it for them. They've done wonders for slow mo car repairs and builders.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    There is no excuse for sitting people in jail without being charged.

    They all have bail now as far as I know.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2917 posts Report Reply

  • A S,

    Sure, I have no problem with keeping an eye on them; very sensible. Armed raids and locking them up without trial for a month is another matter altogether, especially when only 5 at most of the 17 were making such threats.

    It wasn't that long ago that common or garden variety criminals spent up to 18 months on remand awaiting their trials. A month is pretty good going, really.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2007 • 229 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    it wasn't that long ago that common or garden variety criminals spent up to 18 months on remand awaiting their trials. A month is pretty good going, really.

    its still too long. what exactly is it that the legal system is doing that requires so much time.
    They can write a parking ticket out in 60 seconds, surely if they've got a case it doesn't take too long to write that down on a piece of paper.
    you can get a hip replacement in less time...

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

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