"It can't happen here". How many times do we hear that? It's not just the corruption, but the cover-up that is the problem, which is also corruption. It's been under Marshall's watch and the buck stops at his desk. Did he know, and if he didn't, why not?
Sorry to barge in, I'm not a nice person as you all know, but The Herald has been truly evil.
Here's something Queen of Thorns has posted on her awfully déclassé blog and which you should pay attention to.
Bob Jones is not simply an amusing curmudgeon, he is evil and The Herald profits from him:
Here’s what I’ve posted on The Standard and my Facebook page – please feel free to spread it as far as you like. The Herald has really passed a moral line with this – and clearly, they know it.
This is outrageous. If you have a subscription to The Herald you should cancel it immediately.
A family member of mine committed suicide and I can tell you that it's no joke as Jones and The Herald think that it is.
Here is the text of a post I have made to a well-known blog. Please pass it on. This really needs to be spread. The Herald is allowing its columnists to incite suicide and has such lax moral consciousness that it only belatedly realises that it may expose them to prosecution.
Boycott The Herald!
Queen of Thorns has helpfully exposed just how vile and mercenary Granny can be – see
The Herald published a column by “Sir” Bob Jones in which he boasted of driving a man to suicide and only lately admitted that they might have made a boo-boo.
There is this address:
Here’s my letter to the editor. Feel free to make use of any elements you like in telling the editors just how you feel. Do not let them get away with their crime!
I know that this won’t be printed because I use the word \\”fucking\\” in the header, though you’re happy to profit from someone boasting of the crime of successfully exhorting someone to commit suicide.
You permitted Bob Jones, who’s already excused rape, to confess to – no, boast of – a crime resulting in someone’s death in order to make a profit and then issued the limp apology \\”We apologise that the original column caused offence to some readers.\\” because anything honest would have you facing prosecution.
Someone with authority saw that column and decided that it was going to be a money-earner. Are they still being rewarded for their judgement, are they still on the payroll?
You must be so proud of yourselves. Just imagine how many page views you gained – the shareholders will be delighted, I’m sure!
You have to be the most revolting publication in New Zealand if you want to profit from this.
Do you know why I don’t pay money to buy the Herald? It doesn’t absorb well, it isn’t neatly perforated in small sections, it has all of this pointless ink on it and it doesn’t come in rolls.
Are you proud of yourself, are you really?
Yes, of the left, Craig is a good and worthy critic and people should listen to him. Of the right, well, he tends to pull his punches...
I'm sorry Russell, but "it's a nice day" is really a cop out. Nelson Mandela's memory is a serious matter, not an occasion for ritualistic platitudes. You opened a Pandora's box that needed to have been opened and it's too late to close it now.
Sorry Lilith, but Uriah is a bigot who readily uses mental illness as a means of denigration. Don't facilitate his bigotry.
I admit that I am unwell, but I WILL NOT let that bigoted scumbag participate in a group hug or appropriate Nelson Mandela's memory be used to glorify Margaret Fucking Thatcher or David Fucking Cameron.
Yes, I'm angry. In fact I'm furious at the sanctimonious hypocrisy I see. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, go back to your chardonnay.
Fine, I have a mental illness - aspergers, leading to anxiety and depression, diagnosed, medicated and having treatment. Uriah has ridiculed me for that as Rhinocrates on The Standard, so let him apologise and withdraw his mockery, then I'll let it rest. If you want to support bigots and give them a platform, then that's "fine" and goodbye.
You're right, and I aspire to be civil with people with different political views such as Craig, but with shameless liars and wolves who cry "Boy"? No, not ever. I agree absolutely with you... with the exception of Uriah and his ilk.
If that applies to everyone, fine.
OK Sacha, Is a "narrative" necessarily wrong?
I can't see what advantage that might be
Oh dear... No Uriah isn't Dr Evil/Strangelove - he's too banal for that, but he's hardly innocent or not tendentious. He's not even an extremist, but he's gleefully and profitably paving the road to right-wing extremism.
I know too much history and know too many old germans and eastern europeans who are have had direct experience of how propaganda and tyranny work. I may seem hyperbolic, but while Uriah might not be a Nazi, "It couldn't happen here" is just damned foolishness (look up Oswald Mosely and compare him with the people Uriah was so happy to associate with at the Malborough Sounds Symposia). They'll use caricatures of real heroes any way they can to further aims that are utterly antithetical to those heroes'/heroines' real aims.
When it's obvious, it's too late.
Hooton has commented in good faith and with respect.
No, I'm sorry, but Uriah Hoot NEVER says anything in good faith, he has only imitated those qualities. You really should, or shouldn't - because it could be triggering - look at his utterly vile racist and misogynist comments that he has made for many years about "dumb bros" and "stupid maori" and how women aren't fit for careers.
Maybe there's some kind of moral equivalent of the Turing Test? Uriah Hoot will make it to a high level, but he'll fail in practice.
Remember when I told everyone you weren't a troll? Don't make me regret that.
I thank you very much for that, and I won't forget it, but Uriah Hoot is a fraud and he's the one real exception that I'll make here. As I've mentioned, he's attacked me personally over my mental health (depression and anxiety) issues as a cheap shot and if he can't take criticism, well then...
I deeply and sincerely respect the nature of PA (and people with whom I've had deep disagreements such as your self and Craig - indeed, I respect you all the more because of your honesty), but I despise attempts to pervert it as that professional liar has done. I won't be so nasty with anyone else, but Uriah Hoot is not to be trusted, ever.
I'll happily sacrifice my reputation in opposition to what that slime represents.
I truly appreciate Russells' intentions (piety is a virtue, sadly devalued), his management of this blog and the fact that it is HIS blog among a range of others that include W****O** and K***B***, so generally I respect the tone and atmosphere that he is maintaining. PA-HN is a good, safe place to discuss serious matters in a civil way, but when, as you say, an impostor like Uriah Hoot turns up, then I'm not ashamed to lose my cool. His craven dishonesty and opportunism is a contamination to the discourse - just look at his record for misogyny and racism. A few sugary words now just aren't enough - instead, they're an insult.
I've always appreciated the honesty and civility of Public Address/Hard News. To see someone like Uriah Hoot try to pervert it to his advantage has disgusted and angered me.