Posts by Yamis
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Legal Beagle: On Burglary, or: Dropping…, in reply to Graeme Edgeler,
Your front lawn isn't an enclosed yard, so no.
Enclosed yards are usually places like building sites, or semi-industrial places that get locked at the end of the day, if you can just stroll up a driveway, I don't believe it counts.I've got another curly one for you Graeme.
About 2 months ago I caught the neighbours kids throwing fruit from a tree on their property at my house and a neighbours house.
Does a thrown object that crosses your property boundary, causing damage, equal a held crowbar that crosses a boundary smashing a window (for example)? In other words were they burgling my house?
They threw it through trees and over a 5 foot fence so yes, it is an enclosed yard. They were lobbing them and showering on my neighbours roof as well.
I wandered around to their property, and had to open a gate to gain access, and knocked on their front door where I had a chat with his grand mother. I couldn't find anything to steal, but I was wearing my op shop wolf's head so I ate her, hid in her wardrobe, and tried to get her grand son. His dad came at me with an ax, but I managed to slip over our fence and hid in our rabbit hutch until he left.
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Legal Beagle: On Burglary, or: Dropping…, in reply to Graeme Edgeler,
What if there is a gate at the end of the drive? Should domestic properties close their gate and hang a sign saying "closed for soliciting, trespassers will be prosecuted for burglary". Quite tempting :)
To get to our front door somebody has to walk up our drive, go up stairs, and cross our deck to our front door. There is a gate at the top of the stairs on to the deck, which is sometimes closed and sometimes not.
It seems absurd that all that should make a difference.
It's pretty bloody obvious when somebody walks on to private property and you shouldn't need to put a gate in to define the property. We've all probably walked past 10,000 houses in our lives and known exactly where the boundary is. The fact that a door isn't closed isn't an indication that the occupants allow you to enter.
I'm going to hang a sign at the end of our drive saying "All those setting foot past this point will be charged with burglary".
joking of course.
But as an aside would a sign telling people it's private property and to bugger off constitute a 'gate/fence' ?
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What's the deal with people knocking on your front door to raise money for charity, flog some home ventilation system, or borrow some sugar? They've all clearly entered your property without permission.
I'm not quite getting the burglary vs trespass difference.
Could somebody freedom camping on the edge of somebody's farm out in the sticks be charged with burglary? because they would know that they weren't allowed to do that per se, but would just be relying on the fact that they probably aren't really causing any harm. Me and some mates did that all round Europe ten years ago. Some of it on public land, but some on private land (but discreetly) and the owners paid us no mind).
Me and my father turned up home a few years ago and found an elderly man had parked his car on our property and was sitting in his deck chair, eating his sandwich and admiring the view of the dry stone wall dad had built and the valley beyond.
He asked us if he was OK there and dad said, no worries, and went to the house and left him too it. My dad told me that when he was younger that that was quite common that people would be out in the countryside and would have a picnic, or take in the scenery on privately owned land.
But that could now be classed as burglary? Not that there would be any charges in that situation I mentioned but the idea that it could be if the land owner was a prick... ???
yours legally confused
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Hard News: When "common sense" isn't, in reply to HORansome,
... but I can see that the high-viz recommendation seems to have an element of blaming the rider, rather than the appalling driving standards of most New Zealanders.
Most? As in over 50%?
I ride a bike now and then, but mainly drive a car and I'd say most people are pretty careful. If anything I'd say car drivers are a little more careful than the bike riders I see.
The main problem is that our roads are not set up for shared use. A 2 thin wheeled vehicle with a person sitting on it with basically no protection whatsoever, and travelling at about 20k's an hour for the most part has to share a lane with a large metallic object travelling at 50k's+ trying to get home to watch Seven Sharp.
It has SFA to do with our car driving/ bus driving/ truck driving culture. I've ridden a bike overseas and as long as you share heavily congested roads you've got the same problems EVERYWHERE. If the streets were flooded with cyclists would car drivers honestly go 50k's, then drop real fast down to 20k's, to carefully give them 1.5m, to boom back up to 50k's to slam the breaks on to get down to 20k's, to politely pass them, to boost back up to 50k's.... it's just stupid. There is no effing room and vehicles behind you are going to struggle to see this relatively small object in front of you that you've pulled the hand break for. The only safe way is to have separate cycling lanes, or else widened footpaths which are shared pedestrian, cyclist use. Otherwise, if you are riding a bike at 20-30k's an hour on busy roads, then suck it up.
I ride a bike quite often for the record and I pick and choose when and where I ride because I don't wanna die :)
I'm sick of the bitching and moaning about NZ's driving culture. You're basically saying that most people in NZ are uneducated, uncaring fuckwits. And we aren't.
I've seen driving in dozens of countries overseas and I'd hazard an educated guess that we aren't even top 100 for shit house driving in the world. China was an exception when I was there but everywhere else in Asia it was every man for himself. I wouldn't get on a bike in most places in a sumo suit.
ride on
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This is my booming track of the week.
1986 LA Rams promo song and video
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Hard News: The Next Act, in reply to Sacha,
His excuse.
Personally I could barely stand to watch or listen to him at all, right from the get go when I was in my early teens up until the end. But that's probably a bit mean of me to come out and say that now :(
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Holmes was apologetic afterwards and said it was an attempt to be funny that didn't work.
For somebody that has a mic in their face hours a day, going out live you've gotta give them a bit of slack.
God knows what I'd come up with :)
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Hard News: The Next Act, in reply to Scott Chris,
After they had her make a mock call to Stephen Joyce tonight saying give the teachers their 12 million dollars or she'll give him 12 million f*&ken whacks, I think it's fair to say that she's in some control of the situation and is comfortable with it.
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Hard News: MegaBox: From f**k-all to zero, in reply to richard,
Another question is what sort of advertisers would buy space that had been, um, liberated from Google? Am predicting it will be all classy stuff – you know, Make Money From Home, Free iPods, Cheap Viagra, Meet Your New Russian Girlfriend, Machines in Your Basement to Make Free Energy, One Simple Trick to Help you Lose Belly Fat, Vaccine Denialists…
Holy crap! You can get all that stuff?! Got any links?
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As a teacher I'd like to see the Teachers Council sod off completely, and leave the police and courts (and media) to deal with dodgy teacher behaviour. We pay them a decent amount of money from our stingy pay and they do a freakin useless job.