Posts by linger
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Hard News: NZ On Screen: The…, in reply to Hebe,
do earthquakes follow the Gregorian calendar?
I doubt they even follow the rugby.
(Judge for yourself whether or not that implies sentience.) -
And Holmes (18/02/2012).
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One could try a screen-grab and then attach the jpg.
Compare and contrast:
Laws (10/12/2011) -
Hard News: This Is Not A Complicated Issue, in reply to Craig Ranapia,
At least he’s consistent: Michael Laws was shown in similar style on 10/12/2011 (can't link directly to it, but it's the 30th in the slideshow after the one you referred to ... and I note that this means your link isn't permanent either).
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Hard News: Media Mathematics, in reply to Craig Ranapia,
“Paul will continue to treat all Q&A guests with equal rigour, fairness and balance"
That’s a nicely ambiguous statement. “Equal fairness and balance”, eh?
One reading (probably unintended, but very likely in practice) is simply that “Paul will continue to show the same biases, no matter who he’s interviewing”. How very reassuring. -
Hard News: This Is Not A Complicated Issue, in reply to BenWilson,
(Yep – I figured it might be helpful to make it explicit why the equivalence was false… But, nek minnit, Lockwood actually did start getting described as being from an alien culture!)
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Hard News: This Is Not A Complicated Issue, in reply to Kracklite,
self:
I don’t think anyone is seriously arguing that Lockwood is from a culture with significantly different rules for kinesic expression
Kracklite:
You know he’s not really real, and yet he tries so hard to show that he is
*sigh* I stand corrected.
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Hard News: This Is Not A Complicated Issue, in reply to BenWilson,
Done. Hmmm, no I’m still going with my own judgment, because it’s the one I’ve got.
And, you see, that’s kind of the problem right there. That (entirely understandable) assumption that “my own assumptions about interpreting behaviour are correct, because they’ve always worked for me so far” – which doesn’t work when you meet someone who operates (whether for cultural or neurological reasons) by different rules.
Now, let’s put this back in context for a moment – you were interpreting Lockwood’s body language. That, I think, is defensible: I don’t think anyone is seriously arguing that Lockwood is from a culture with significantly different rules for kinesic expression than yourself, and so your judgement of his reactions is likely to be fairly reliable.
Whereas Craig was describing the situation where a student (the person being judged) is operating with different behavioural rules than the (more powerful) person, from the dominant culture, doing the judging. This is a really serious sociolinguistic problem, because unless the teacher gets explicit training in how to interpret the culturally-conditioned behaviour of the student, the teacher cannot accurately interpret the student’s behaviour, and (unless the culture-based nature of this miscommunication is identified) will attribute the problem to the student having some socially undesirable traits.
Actually, even with such consciousness-raising training, it is quite hard to apply this knowledge to interpreting real-time interactions.
(And I think you and I may have had this discussion before, a long time ago…)
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Craig's described scenario is a fairly well known example of a cultural difference leading to miscommunication if not identified, see e.g. discussion of how Samoan cultural norms are interpreted in NZ schools, in
Joan Metge & Patricia J. Kinloch (1978/1984) Talking past each other: problems of cross-cultural communication. Wellington: Victoria University Press. -
Speaker: Properly Public: It's our information, in reply to Sacha,
limp-wristedness […] a disappointing experience […]
not really giving a toss– but then, isn’t that just what you’d expect with a limp wrist?
