Someone who just missed my point above (which was about kids and who their parents are and how there are many different ways to do it) made me want to point out that none of the families I described above are polygamous (or polyandrous) ... just different and adapted to circumstance.
Emma: I do have polyandrous friends, they do exist, they do have kids, and don't know who are the biological Dads (on purpose), and in this case both are fathers and parents - another way of factoring it all out.
I also used to have as neighbours in the US a female couple who had been married for years, and had biological kids - one had once been a guy but changed (they stayed married), the kids came later - yet another way to do things
Listening to David talking about this the other day I realised that "The George" was in itself too long and that perhaps "The Gorge" might be a better term since it implies the greed of the speculative bubble that preceded the problem and the US govt's largest spendthrift at the same time
Obviously one point of the act is to make sure that someone is always responsible for the child - real families are of course much more complex and do change over time.
I think it is important to distinguish between being parents and mothers/fathers
For an example - I am the father of 4 children - I am the parent of 2 of them in a traditional nuclear family with my wife - I am not a parent of the other 2 who are in a family in which one can easily argue there are 5 mothers (2-4 of which are parents)
Now we make the distinction between being a 'father' and being a 'parent' and in some sense it's our own take on that particular use of language and how it applies to our situation .
PS: I've probably totally confused you with my description of our situation - needless to say it's all above board and kosher - and was in fact my wife's idea
(err um well maybe guys should ...)
probably has vacuum tubes in it - carefull when you pee
You know you'd think that an Aussie Sex party would at least get the fingers the right way around ....
The other week I commented that the Green Party was the only one (in my experience) who knew how to do the 'party' bit right, I wonder how these guys will do ....
yeah HDMI sucks badly (for lots of reasons, not just the copy protection - but a lot of them caused by the copy protection)
As I said before I design DVRs for a living - I had a 4 tuner satellite box in the US as part of a company home trial, from memory it was Sun night and we were recording The Simpsons, The Sopranos, Sex in the City and Law and Order - at which point someone wanted to check the news (4 recordings and 1 live but only 4 tuners) - see perfectly reasonable
one extra tuner is a must, one extra per TV (for a PVR that supports multiple TVs) is better.
I once lived with a 4 tuner/1 TV PVR for a while and only ran out of tuners once ....
Andrew - not all Freeview boxes are also DVRs/PVRs (in fact I'm not sure any are yet - Russell's article, in part announces what are probably the first ones) - most just replace the analog channel tuning with digital tuning
I should add - Freeview's grid guide (as described on their web site) is covered by a patent (owned by a litigious assignee what's more) that makes it a barrier to implementation - encouraging many different sorts of guides (and UIs) is a good thing
(disclaimer: I work for a non-NZ settop manufacturer that makes a box with different UI and a non-grid guide)