I’m guessing an older person read the original incident, rightly or wrongly, about being about elder abuse. You might disagree, you might be right, but I don’t think it was malign or derailing. People come here from a range of places and we try and respect them all.
That's all well and good Russell, but...
I've read in other threads on this sort of topic, women saying they felt uncomfortable commenting. I've never felt it myself before now. We've had an observation a few pages back that this had started to turn into a bunch of men talking to each other, some of them ignoring the voices of women in the thread. When I looked, it looked to me like there were still women talking, and there were again afterwards. But this morning I have my own brief taste of not wanting to comment further. Which I will resist.
A "whatabout..." post doesn't have to be malign, or even derailing, it just has to be there.
Older age is one of the many excuses made for lack of awareness in men. At some point/age that excuse expires.
I don't think any woman reading this thread would think it was about elder abuse rather than women abuse.
Let’s address the male abuse of women issue but let’s not pretend it is just young men being the problem here.
Well, I guess it’s something that it took until page six before we got to the “hey, women abuse men too” post.
I typed a long and sarcastic comment here, but deleted it, because what's the point.
I've wondered too about the band stopping playing until the problem is addressed, mostly because I assume that given they're generally playing on a stage, they might be able to see stuff happening that's not visible to the people in the audience except to those right next to it. But of course they won't see everything either.
I found the other one (Insull, not Insel) in about a minute on Facebook. He's clearly not the least ashamed of his actions, and nor are his friends.
I find this interesting in the context of my own annual comms campaign: every year I try to let young people know about an overseas school/scholarship opportunity. I want to be the mysterious stranger, but actually I don't know enough Year 11/12 students to do that effectively. So I have to also encourage school teachers to be the mysterious stranger for their students.
So is that the future for heroes: to become the mysterious stranger themselves?
Of course, I'm hoping teachers already see themselves as the mysterious stranger - I suspect many do, though no doubt some see themselves as heroes instead, or as well.
Otherwise: I find comms challenging. I've read all the stuff about saying "you" and "your", or if you must, "we", and never "I". The challenge I find is writing in that way and still sounding genuine rather than saccharine and obviously manipulative. And that's just the scholarship promotion. Fundraising brings a whole new level of squeam.
I have a feeling the conversation maybe was meant to be about good vs evil rather than the trials of comms, but maybe both is possible.
The tricky thing is how to address it. You could refund the fees component of any outstanding loan - but then some of those of who paid off their loans early will (quite rightly) feel hard done by.
The fact is that sometimes a generation misses out on something because government(s) sucked for a while. If we wait until we figure out a way to compensate them for that before we fix things, things will never get fixed.
That said, I don't think it would be so difficult (just presumably a lot more expensive) to say "3 free years of tertiary education less any free education you've already had". In my case, my PhD scholarship would count as free education. But my two brothers would be able to finish their first and second degrees respectively without having to further extend their student loans.
Why is that?
I'm not the Asthma Foundation, and I'm a public health epidemiologist rather than a medically trained respiratory specialist, so I don't know sorry. But if you ask them, they may tell you. I would guess the answer is something like "we don't want people to underestimate the necessity of medication". Or alternatively "yes, good point, we'll look into it for the next iteration."
I've certainly seen coffee suggested as an emergency treatment for asthma when other options aren't available (I remember it from an episode of Quantum Leap), but as ever with asthma there are two issues: preventing attacks, and treating them when they happen. According to this, taking caffeine can result in modest improvements in lung function for about four hours. "Modest improvements" probably means if someone's having a life-threatening asthma attack some caffeine might buy them enough time to get better treatment, but won't stop the attack altogether.
On the prevention front, "It is not known if taking caffeine leads to improvements in symptoms. It may be that in order to improve the symptoms of asthma, caffeine is needed in such large amounts that the drug's adverse effects would become a problem, so more research is needed."*
*As far as I can tell, the phrase "more research is needed" is compulsory in every public health paper. That doesn't mean it's not true, it just means it's longhand for "um, we don't know yet".
So after a while I started to wonder why this Buteyko breathing method isn’t officially and vigorously promoted as a viable therapy by the NZ Asthma Foundation. It was then that I realised why – when I was on asthma medication I worked out it was costing the taxpayer $3000 a year for just me (just look at the subsidy amount on your medication label) – and that was 20 years ago. Worldwide, the asthma industry is worth billions to pharmaceutical companies. So why would they ever want to promote a therapy that fixes the condition once and for all, when you can keep making money out of just treating the symptoms instead of the cause. And in case you didn’t know, the NZ Asthma Foundation gets a lot of its money from those same pharmaceutical companies.
Gray, you can be passionate about the Buteyko method without being rude about the Asthma Foundation. I have worked with, and for (for transparency, yes, paid, but it's not like I'm short of other work) the Asthma Foundation, and they are good people who are at least as passionate about trying to prevent asthma as you might be about the method that you've found that worked for you. I recall conversations with Foundation employees where they were clearly still feeling grief over the death of more than one young person they'd work closely with. I feel affronted by your insinuation that they would risk further lives rather than jeopardise one of their sources of funding.
The Asthma Foundation base their official advice for asthma control on advice given to them by research scientists. The advice they give on Buteyko reads to me as a fair and balanced summary of the current state of research in the area, with appropriate cautions for people planning to try it (talk to your doctor, keep taking your medication). Given the current state of the evidence, to advise otherwise would be reprehensible.
So, as I say, be as passionate as you like about Buteyko. Advocate for others to try it in case it helps them in the same way that it helped you. But don't assign impure motives to people who must, ethically, prefer research study evidence to your personal, non-controlled, non-blinded, sample of one.
And a good thing you had ventolin and not fenoterol (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2565417). If you ever get the chance to hear him tell it, Julian Crane’s tale of that study and the threats he received from the pharmaceutical industry over its findings is a good listen.
ETA I see wasabicube did get fenoterol. Yikes.
I agree entirely that non-accident disability should attract the same support as accident disability. At the moment though I would be worried that the result would be the other way round - accident disability would be downgraded to the same level of support currently offered for non-accident disability.
It would certainly be in keeping with all the other bitter stories I've heard about ACC lately.