least three male posters here support feminism
Assuming I'm one of them ... I understand (some of) feminism and I support and demand equality but that doesn't feel to me to be feminism. Certainly not as Greer would describe feminism.
It has nothing to do with my gender.
I’m not a feminist
Nothing to do with the idea that men can't be feminists, although I've seen some women say that. For me the aim should be equality.
I understand that because we have an imbalance now, feminists feel the need to push harder to shift things to a balance point. As a result I see feminists pushing for what is obviously an imbalanced position (but the opposite to what exists now). I understand why they do that and I can even understand why it may be necessary to finally achieve balance - but understanding doesn't change the way I feel - I simply don't feel comfortable pushing for anything other than the balance point where you demand equality but nothing more.
Hence I don't describe myself as feminist, nor does Sally and nor I think would most feminists.
making the point that men who are neither gay nor feminist like women to be promiscuous and wear as little clothing as possible.
Sally I'm not a feminist, lifestyle or otherwise. Nor am I gay. Yet I disagree with the statement. Perhaps I should be excluded from analysis as an outlier. Or perhaps the statement is not taking into account all the data available and is hence a flawed hypothesis.
Personally I think it's a trite shallow simplification but that's just my opinion.
Can I just say how freaking happy what's happened to this thread makes me?
This is like one of those conversations you have with your friends and suddenly someone asks "how did we end up talking about this?" ... I love those conversations.
But Danielle I can say without prejudice that I hated Wham when they came out first and I still hate them ... which is not the case with ABBA but then again we haven't had a Muriel's Wedding for Wham so who knows...
No I can jump, I just can't keep time.
Dude, I fucking LOVE Wham!
You must be trying to get drunk enough to watch Black Swan
the tapping must be in time
No worries then ... I can't keep time with anything.
I think we benefit from highlighting how unusual the attitude is
Which is probably the most irritating part of the argument for me, because it's simply lazy thinking. It isn't based on real data and it doesn't progress the discussion.
I wasn't sure who made the comment Russell quoted, whether it was a he or a she hence the neutral they.
“Turns Thomas the Tank Engine into Porn”
Really don't want to think about John Key and porn at the same time.