That's right, I forgot about that one.
It needs the be kept in a public place, as a symbol, for everyone to really contemplate how fucked up Hitler actually was.
Why Not? Both Parties have representation of people who feel they have been treated wrongly or illegally or discriminated against. They do make sense.
I don’t think associating with the internet party is a good idea at all. The internet party isn’t really a political party.It is more like an expensive PR stunt. Mana could have done better by quietly building grass roots support from people like myself.
PS : I don’t feel discriminated against, treated illegally or wrongly. I’d just like to see the impoverished and vulnerable get a fair shake of the dice. Kim Dot Com is big enough to take care of himself.
What Danielle said.
What I am saying is that there approach to addiction treatment is not a cure all. There are other techniques such as Hazelden which is more appropriate to a larger portion of the New Zealand demographic. The former Hanma springs treatment center, that was closed during the last Labor led government was Hazelden based but also included access to religios support for those needing that. The Salvation Army is a religios organization plain and simple. That is not a bad thing, exept, as I have already said, There religion can interfere with the recovery of some people with serios illness such as drug addiction.
They “compete” for funding in the same way that anyone else who wishes to contract for provision of public health services “competes”, and in the same way that any other charity that relies on public donations “competes”.
you have two scenarios there, contracting for provision of public health services and public donations. Using public donations religiously based treatment services is between the donators and the service provider. But contracting to provide public health services is another thing.
So, back to what I was saying about serious illness. why should Problem gambling, being a serious illness because it can course death due to suicide, treated outside of the public health system? The Salvation Army are providing a Christian Based Health Service. I have no problem with that being publicly funded just like I have no problem with Maori Heath services being publicly funded. Especially when the illness has a spiritual kernel. But what does concern is that when the lions share goes to the Salvation. And that is considered to ok, even if it balances in the books. What about what’s best for problem gamblers, addicts, there family’s and the community?
Or is your disdain for them sufficient that you don’t think they should take part in tender processes for provision of addiction treatment services?
Mabe you should go back and read the thread properly, and have a think about where your ire is being placed.
Actually, they do compete for funding for all sorts of things. They do compete for funding for problem gambling treatment because they ask for funds. The Salvation Army stand on the street competing for funding for gods sake.
But thanks for contributing you opinion about where my ire should be placed, Matthew, I will take note.
That’s right, two brothers who where devout members of the Salvation Army, graced New Zealand with Mcdonalds.
The Salvation Army brothers Wally and Hugh Morris brought McDonald’s to New Zealand in the 1970s.
The Morris brothers, both devout members of the Salvation Army whose work ethic and frugality had led them to build the Shoprite supermarket chain of over 100 stores, knew better and eventually persuaded McDonald’s to develop a joint venture with them. But that was only the start of the challenges: import restrictions made it difficult to import essential items from kitchens to uniforms, and ways had to be found around the regulations.
That was a good funding ratio. 1 to 2 million to the Salvation Army, 5 million to the PGF.
Like Ross said, why change it!
And that really is odd that the Salvation Army says they have not seen a contract. What happens if they decline the offer?