I don't think you are in league with anyone, except those lizard beings maybe.
I do think the general approach being taken to Greenwald is a reflection of a meme being perpetuated by the US government.
I still struggle to see what your point about the timing decision is or was. Of course Snowden was in a hurry, he knew he could be shut down or taken out very quickly. Urgency made sense, the details you seemed to have concerns with generally stacked up as more and more evidence was presented.
The point you and others seem to be buying into is that Greenwald, Snowden et al are unstable and therefore unreliable. If that's not the case then why not make it clear that is not what you are saying?
...Daily Mail...Ed Miliband. QED.
Craig, credible track record is important. Greenwald, Rusbridger, Wikileaks, and the Guardian have it in spades. The personality issue is a side show. If the content is weak, attack the content. Personal attack is exactly how the US government has tried to discredit this and many other similar stories.
Have you not spotted the pattern yet?
Legally innocent unless proven guilty. "Not Guilty" means the prosecution failed to prove the accused committed the crime. Whether a person is actually innocent is another matter.
Quite. So until Lundy's retrial you are legally no less innocent of the crime as Lundy. And if the retrial finds him not guilty then you would be more less innocent than he would be...legally.
The opposition to the TPP is not a minority far left movement
Correct. NZRise represents the NZ owned digital business sector. One of our very first acts was to attend the Vietnam round a few years ago and instigate the "lunch with negotiators" events. We are concerned about the TPP for all the reasons Hadyn points to. Scroll down this page for more info:
The key point is that this is not a deal that is an FTA. In exchange for very limited (and as yet undefined) market access the USA is seeking protection for its own industries and corporates. That's the "high quality" bit of this deal. It is going to cost us all money and people will die as a result of the increased costs of medical treatments.
MFAT and MBIE seem to have gone silent on Kiwi stakeholders. Used to be we got regular updates and were invited to briefings on progress. This has come to a grinding halt over the last 9 months.
I'm not sure how to put this Russell. But once again your approach seems to be to shoot the messenger. This time Greenwald. In doing so you turn this (as you did with the Wikileaks saga) into a story of personalities over content.
This seems deliberate and exactly what our governments would like. C.f. todays Daily Mail.
But not guilty is not innocent
I keep seeing this and I object. Not guilty *is* innocent. Sorry, that's how the system works, remember...Innocent until proven guilty.
It would be nice if the media remembered that occassionally.
Maybe all sisters say that. Maybe it's our job to believe such things. I don't know
I know one or two younger brothers who might feel the same about their elder sisters. Just saying.
And don’t you think he’s a good-looking young man?
Indeed, a chip off the old block :-)
that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognize talent and hope for stardom for one of our children. I don't watch shotput on a daily basis either, but I'll watch our star getting a gold medal, for sure.
That's the nutshell. Showing how NZers can do and do do great things. Seeing that in music, arts, the youth America's Cup, the main event and many other areas. I find it inspirational. Others don't, that's fine. But the cynicism can be grinding.