The Listener's editorial is unusually direct and well-informed on the matter
I just read that as well and my initial reaction was "Good God! a Listener editorial that holds water...mustn't have been written by Joanne Black, then...".
Mr Key and his ponies is another meme that's off at a trot.
I just hope we don't get to see him having a pony*...
*in the Cockney rhyming slang sense.
Someone described Soul Bar to me as the same crowd (men) that used to party at Casablanca in Parnell and now, of course, are 20 years older, but that the women are the same age as those who once frequented the earlier venue.
For the benefit of non-Aucklanders, can you please elaborate on what Soul Bar is and what Casablanca was ?
By the way, did anyone see the valedictory piece on Helen Clark on last night's TV one news. It was terribly mean-spirited given that such things are usually reasonably generous.
I thought it was very bitter and twisted as well. They had Brash on who said "she'll be remembered as a very poor Prime Minister".
All I can say is why do the words "sour grapes, "sore loser" and "sad old man" spring to mind ?
You might want to take some Eno, give your gut a rest and start using your eyes.
I'd especially recommend starting with Here Come The Warm Jets, then if that doesn't help, maybe Taking Tiger Mountain.
Prebble's just suggested that Act stay out of formally being part of the gov't, as in the past the coalition parties have ended up as toast.
So do Act want to be in gov't or not ? This is getting weird.
Roger Douglas has just come on and still does not seem to accept Key's word that he won't be in Cabinet. Good grief.
Hearing that croaky "aaaahhhhmmm" so often again is just bizarre.
The novelty of his being back in Parliament will wear off quickly, however.
The gov't is going to get very sick, very quickly, of sending out press releases saying "Sir Roger is entitled to his personal view, but they are not those of the government...".
By the way, there seems to be an awful lot of mourning on this site. I think that's unfortunate...A celebration of democracy might also be in order. Thems the breaks folks..The last three years politics are the result of the price Labour paid to keep Don Brash's hands off the treasury benches.
I reckon we're just letting off steam. Once we've all let of the steam, we'll settle down. Every cloud has a silver lining and I'm entirely thankful that it'll be John Key as PM and not Don Brash. Key I can tolerate, but Brash would've been unbearable.
And you might not much like what John Key & Bill English (or Helen Clark & Michael Cullen those damned academics!) did for a living before entering Parliament, but I rather doubt any of them scored their degrees on their backs. I don't know about you, Grant, but I don't think my c.v. gives be too much ground to be quite that snotty.
Craig, I have no qualms whatsoever about what Key, English, Clark and Cullen did before becoming MPs. My comment was not meant to be snotty, either. (Or did you actually mean "snooty" ?). ;)
*sigh* But a "community organiser" isn't such a bad call, right?
I "hear" what you're saying Craig, but let's not forget that he was also president of the Harvard Law Review, etc. The man's not a mug, with out wishing to state the obvious.