Posts by stephen clover

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  • Hard News: Dirty Politics, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Jesus fucking Christ, is Hagar expecting a medal made out of warm cookie dough? He was perfectly happy to receive “a considerable amount of very personal information” and, sorry, I just don’t believe he was the only person who read it. If you’re going to shit on people’s privacy, just cut the flesh-crawling sanctimony and get on with it.

    Well, why not!? I’m sure that the personal information he received would be sufficient to destroy a number of people and yet UNLIKE Slater & his mates in Cabinet, he’s not plotting how best to use it but rather treating it ethically and disposing it. You’re protesting too loud, mate.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Dirty Politics, in reply to Mike Kilpatrick,

    p29

    [Aaron] Bhatnagar had been sniffing around the Labour Party’s websites and stumbled across an insecure location containing gigabytes of sensitive party information […] passed the find on to his friend [Slater]

    Likely he found a unprotected sub-directory with the CRM database (a backup?) in it. Bob’s your uncle. Though with the regularity that those two (and others) enthuse about “smashing Labour” and so on, its hard to imagine his intent was benign.

    Of course subsequently Slater, Ede, Simon Lusk and whoever it was at national.govt.nz who exploited the security flaw and downloaded the data can not have not known exactly what they were doing.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Dirty Politics, in reply to Dylan Reeve,

    It would appear that he is deeply involved in the outright spin in the same way that Slater is.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Dirty Politics,

    There was no real "hacking". According to Hager's book, Aaron Bhatnagar was "sniffing" around and found the insecure data. He passed that to Slater who claimed the score himself and colluded with people in the PMs office and at National party headuarters (Ede and Simon Lusk are named) on how and when to release the information to maximise the damage to the Labour party.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Dirty Politics,

    @Craig p32, 35

    The details of the plan were worked out between Slater and Ede in the final days before the launch. The computer logs show them both accessing the Labour site on 7 June, Ede … arriving at 10.11 pm and Slater (who forgot to disguise his home IP address) two minutes later at 10.13 pm. Then on 10 June, just two days before the attack was launched, they to-ed and fro-ed by email, working out which bits of the Labour information Slater should emphasize.

    The next day, 14 June, Ede and Slater exchanged several emails expressing their relief that Labour had not discovered Ede’s role. Ede wrote: ‘An interesting sidebar in Pagani’s story is that they’re chasing us by matching IP neighbouroods and types of computer we use. You stand out like dogs balls because of your damn Mac!!!!!’ He continued, ’In my case I wish to offer a hearty sigh of relief and celebrate dynamic IP addresses.’

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Dirty Politics,

    Well, I've read 50 pages tonight -- up to the Bronwyn Pullar business where Judith Collins is implicated as a minister in sharing sensitive information about her department's business and one of its clients with Cam Slater -- and I actually feel sick so I have to stop.

    I hope this is very bad for all of them.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: What rules are these?, in reply to Chaz Harris,

    Settle down, Chaz and Gary. You two are in danger of frothing yourselves into some kind of frenzy. There are plenty of worlds in which it's not creepy at all.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Legal Beagle: Think it possible that you…, in reply to Anne R,

    Very cogent points, Anne. Also: thanks heaps for linking to your great post on Scoop -- I think it should be a must-read for anyone following this issue/thread.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Kirk Alexander,

    ARGH!

    Roast Busters, 15 hours ago
    Fuck the haters we haven't done anything wrong those girls wanted to have sex with US!

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Kracklite,

    Can I just check: you weren't required to leave contact information when you lodged the complaint on their website?

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

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