Posts by BenWilson
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To me, it's just a public holiday. Went to the bach with the family, swam, kayaked, walked, played with my son, waited on my wife and unborn child, caught up with old friends, drank half a beer, took advantage of an unfortunate who scheduled a TradeMe auction for midnight on Friday, lay under the stars and just generally felt really pleased with the world and NZ. Never thought of Waitangi once.
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I don't think my experiences are particularly extreme, I just don't make a habit of desperately avoiding rough people, when they seem to have a genuine point, or real talent. I've heard similar blowups from:
-professional coaches
-artists
-teachers
-office managers
-high powered currency traders
-stockbrokers
-truck driversall of whom I've worked with.
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Kyle
Oh what tosh. If you listen to the clip again, you can hear movement as he says that. Either Bale has moved in a threatening way, or the other guy has reacted. It certainly wasn't a "I'm going to kick your arse, haha!" line.
Yeah, I could hear him moving, followed up with him saying something like "How would you like it if I fucked up your lights?", by which I assumed he was doing something of the sort.
You wouldn't hear that 220 second rant in any normal workplace. Any decent employer would be looking up employment law to find if they could skip warnings and just go straight to the firing stage.
I not only would hear such things, I have heard them. And a lot worse too.
The reason he can get away with it is he's a big time movie star
Agreed.
All of which is fine, and people will go see his movies or not, but please don't pretend that it's normal behaviour in the workplace. It was unusual even for Hollywood, and it's something he's been known for before.
I'm not "pretending", I'm telling you that I've seen it in workplaces where such behavior happening occasionally is normal. As for it being unusual in Hollywood, sorry man, not the way I've ever heard it told.
Maybe if Hollywood started treating actors like people, rather than fragile glass, they'd start to behave more like it.
No doubt it'd be very expensive once they get to Christian Bale type salaries, but if they started doing it with them before they made a million a movie, they might learn.
Or maybe they're about the money. Hmmm, I wonder which is true.
And its terminator IV. We're not talking oscar winning emotional acting here. They needed Bale because Arnie got elected, it's not exactly a franchise built on quality acting.
So what? It's Christian Bale, and some nobody pissing him off. That's the bottom line. Again, just because you don't value it at all doesn't mean the lead actor doesn't, particularly as he's being paid a small fortune to do it. He wants to give it his best and he feels some jerk-off in the background is distracting him.
I don't think it's cool, what he did. I just don't think it's that bad or outrageous either. To my mind, it's a whole lot more honest than saying nothing, and then having a quiet word to the production manager afterward that you'd like the DP fired. He was at least giving the guy a chance to say sorry, and letting other people know just how particular he is about his instructions on a set.
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And there's "Hey! I'm trying to fucking concentrate here, could you stop moving shit around!" vs threatening to hit the guy.
He was threatening to 'Kick his arse'. Which could mean exactly what he was doing. Or getting fired. It doesn't necessarily mean violence and you'd only know if it did mean that if you were there. I'm not splitting hairs, I've just heard 'kick his arse' used in that way so many times in workplaces I don't leap to the assumption that someone is going to get thumped.
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Danielle, it's hardly surprising that Bale takes the movie more seriously than you do. He has millions riding on it, and you probably won't even be risking the price of a ticket.
I personally think it's bad form to rag off ballistically when disciplining people, but that's my style, quiet and careful. Actors are often emotional people, because that helps them display a range of emotions on camera. They have to deliberately wind themselves up all the time. I find it highly tedious and don't associate with those kind of people. But I fully recognize that their talent often derives from their nature.
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but there's a difference between a blowup and a prolonged attack
You'd probably have to actually be there to pick it. Who knows what non-verbal attitude was being given? Or what this was the tail end of? I could definitely hear other voices giving back. Could have been something quite personal. Could have been richly deserved. Could have been what everyone in the room had been wanting to say for a long time.
It might happen a lot, but it's not justifiable.
Well most of the times I've seen it, it was pretty justified. People getting yelled at for fucking up something despite repeated warnings, without any excuse other than they were incompetent or lazy. Or worse, simply defiant, or antagonistic. People who deliberately fuck things up.
It's not my way, and it doesn't work with me, and people don't do it to me. But I've seen it done and I've seen it work, with a lot of people. Particularly people who are in high positions, who understand that their fuck ups are actually quite major, and who have a lot to lose. And people who, for some reason, aren't listening when the matter is put politely.
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I can't get that bitter on Christian Bale about his prolonged outburst. We can't know what kind of previous crap had gone on between them, and that's what stars are like. If you don't like dealing with bad-tempered emotional people, you really oughtn't be in the movie business. Acting is a bloody weird business, attracts weird people, who do weird things. And at the end of it, we get to watch these weird people entertain us. I really don't care how many people he yells at during the course of his day job. I've heard the kind of ragging he was doing in countless professional settings. Particularly in sports. Some people find it motivating. For others, it is a way of establishing their dominance, something that it is often important that they do. If someone pisses a star off for even half an hour that could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, so it's important that the stars let people know what pisses them off, in no uncertain terms. If Christian Bale doesn't like having people wandering around in his view when he's trying to act, then FFS they should listen to him. It very much sounds like this guy was trying to make a point, and lost. When was the last time anyone buying a movie ticket gave a shit who the Director of Photography is?
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I want to pay artists, not fat old white men sitting around pools in Vegas.
I thought Elvis was an artist.
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Who'd be next in line to Phelps for the bong? The dude must have crazy lungs.
Good old Chong. But I doubt that lung capacity has much effect on how big a hit one can take. Might affect how long you can hold it, though. Not that it's a good idea to hold smoke in your lungs for long periods of time. It is not likely to be enhancing Phelps' performance any. Probably not having any effect at all, if his athletic success is anything to go by.
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I hope that isn't where crazy foam guy is getting his info on what happens when you stick stuff in exhaust pipes. Anyone care to lay bets on the first bad outcome (other than the cars needing a new exhaust)?
1. Someone gets hit by foam firing out
2. Exhaust pipe explodes
3. Foam guy caught in act by angry gang of boy racers
4. Copycat foamers start foaming everyone's cars
5. Foam taken off shelves pending the apprehension of foamer
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