No I don’t but I have noticed some in the Green community feel that way.
I, for one, appreciate that the Green Party actually have relatively detailed policies across a wide spectrum of issues.
One of the main reasons I had doubt with even considering the Internet Party during all its hype is that I had trouble figuring out where it would be likely to sit on probably 80%+ of the issues which pass through parliament. To be fair they did get some more detail out as the election approached.
I've just watched the PM interviewed on TVNZ's Breakfast. Rawdon Christie might as well have had his script of questions provided by the PM's office, except that I know he doesn't need that to produce this type of interview.
Anyway, John Key (after saying "all those academics haven't seen the information that I've seen") actually did refer to the "some people say the Terrorism Suppression Act is enough" line. He wrote it off as saying "that's not our reading of it".
It’d be interesting to know the legal opinion on what happened.
Here's some more info. This might be more like an employment dispute than a direct relationship to the Slater stuff.
Interesting legal judgement re data ‘theft’ here:
Wow. An initial 30 months imprisonment for downloading data from an employer seems like a lot, but that’s also without knowing context. From this earlier report, it sounds like some of the context was that he (allegedly) downloaded a massive amount of data from his employer immediately before going to work for a competitor. Plus we’re talking about oil companies, supposedly with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake and likely endless cash to throw at lawyers, so maybe there was more going on.
It’d be interesting to know the legal opinion on what happened. Browsing s249 of the Crimes Act I see it refers to obtaining “property” by accessing a computer, even though the Act’s own definition of property doesn’t clearly seem to include anything intellectual. If that’s what he was initially prosecuted for obtaining ‘property’ then maybe that’s how it doesn’t fit, and also perhaps the fact that he was an employee at the time he supposedly took the data also complicates things. S249 also seems to include a list of other stuff you could dishonestly obtain with a computer besides ‘property’. That’s all just my own layman’s interpretation, though.
I'll never look at Hell Pizzas the same way again.
In Oz (Vic.), where I went to school on and off instead of NZ, they teach teenagers not to trust the police. [–snip–] My experience is most people in NZ think the police are this magical wall holding back the growing darkness
That’s the way I grew up in NZ, with Constable Keith and Sniff on What Now, making sure I knew I could always trust the community police officer. Later on we went on a school tour at the Police College, where they did an entertaining re-enactment of two cops entering and searching a house, only to be attacked by a baddie leaping out of the wardrobe (whom they overpowered and we all cheered).
My view of Police now is more sceptical, especially with how it’s run from the top down. I try hard to give individual officers the benefit of the doubt until given reason to do otherwise, and I appreciate what they do in what are obviously very trying conditions, but the Timaru thing is just another reality check. It demonstrates that individual officers also can’t and shouldn’t be automatically trusted. The courts in this case probably would have taken the Police story as authoritative if the taser hadn’t been recording. The report noted that a technical problem meant they couldn’t see the recording immediately to correlate with their notes, but they shouldn’t need the recording to to file a report on what happened for submission to court. For anyone who hasn’t already experienced this stuff first-hand, reading the report should at least cause them to ask how frequently officers report stuff wrong, overly embellish their stories, or outright make stuff up, when they’re not being recorded.
Also on the side, it was a culture shock shifting to Melbourne a while ago (now back again), where most of the cops on the street walk around in gangs, in multiples of 4, they always have guns, and they shout at you angrily if you’re spotted trying to cross Collins Street when the green man isn’t showing, even when there’s no traffic. For my whole time there I never developed an affinity for the Police in the slightest. I hope NZ police don’t go down that path. I’d rather aim for a police force that I know I can trust than one that I know I can’t.
Tonight on the news, responding to the discovery of a previously unidentified fault through wellington harbour, which was last active 6000 years ago
I’ve been thoroughly confused about why this story’s been given so much airplay today. First all day in the background on National Radio, then all over TV news. Sure, it’s academically fascinating, but it was discovered 2 years ago. There’s always been a high probability that there are many of these undiscovered faults, this really is geological time, and it’s not like anything’s changed in terms of risk or threat or planning. This is exactly what all those people being interviewed are saying over and over again. You wouldn’t know it from the tone of some of the journalistic assertions, though.
Mostly though, I was thrown by my local Wellington Civil Defence Controller’s comment that an earthquake in Wellington wouldn’t be as bad as a power outage in Auckland (2 minutes into this TV3 report). Obviously trying to be reassuring and maybe he didn’t expect it to be replayed so much, but to me it just came across as a back-handed insult to people of Christchurch who are still experiencing that sucky ongoing situation.
I also wonder if police speed cameras are less to do with actual road safety, and more to do with gathering revenue to make up for budget cuts.
My understanding has always been that Police don’t get to keep revenue from speed cameras and that it all goes into the government’s consolidated fund. That’s also what Police claim, but I can’t find the legislative reference (if any) right now.
Not to say that it couldn’t be used to collect revenue for the government generally and maybe there could be some nudge nudge wink wink stuff going on when it comes to allocating budgets, or Cabinet influencing Police priorities, but the direct incentive doesn’t seem to be there.
The police are far from perfect, but I still think they’ve proven to be fairly independent.
I’m as concerned about whether those making the decisions in the Police are competent as I am about whether they’re independent.
It doesn’t necessarily take a secret meeting and a direct request from the PM or another Minister for police to make a dumb and/or badly biased decision about which avenues are most important to investigate.
The Press: This necessitated a process where all items had to be catalogued, secured, sealed and countersigned by both police and Mr Hager’s lawyer prior to being removed from the address.
Would police have had an advantage in this process with Nicky Hager being out of town? Even if he's on the phone and with his lawyers present, the cynic in me just wonders if they'd hope he might mis-identify something of interest to them, based on a verbal description, and therefore not invoke the journalistic privilege. Especially after 10 hours of it, probably pulling out each bit of underwear and asking him about it, or whatever other tactics could be involved to distract.