Posts by izogi

  • Speaker: Inequality: Too big to ignore, in reply to simon g,

    overall, a global report from the OECD is given less prominence than any press release by the “Taxpayers’ Union”.

    Don’t worry, I’m sure the Taxpayer’s Union will come out to discuss this report soon enough.

    And here it is (scroll down for the full media release). It basically seems to be attacking the opposition argument’s use of the term “trickle down economics”, claiming that the Taxpayer’s Union and “centre-right politicians” have never argued for a trickle-down theory, and so it’s a big giant straw-man being used as an evil debating tactic by Grant Robertson and Russel Norman to distract from the actual issues.

    Apparently our taxes are in good hands with this government.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the…,


    I'm starting to cringe ever time I read or hear it in the MSM, as if they've been running some kind of inside competition to slide it into as many reports as possible.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Incomplete, inaccurate and misleading, in reply to matthew,

    Is there really such a thing as permanently deleting an email. Surely there is at least some forensic IT capacity somewhere in our state apparatus that could recover deleted correspondence.

    My first thought on reading that was "don't most email conversations involve at least two participants?"

    Has someone else been deleting things besides Jason Ede?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Garbage in, garbage out, in reply to Andre,

    To say the alternative is worse is not a fact. To repeat that mantra is playing into the hands of the liars and cheats.

    Is NZ shifting towards a Fox News style of journalism? I don't follow Fox (so correct me!), but what I've heard of it is that the news is often straight-out facts but it then gets clouded with highly partisan comment that often masquerades as news.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Garbage in, garbage out, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    What you get on PAS is not an average persons interest.They seem to like Slater scum or so the figures are supposed to be (although debatable I’m sure) RB is one of the few people asking questions.

    The wider range of ‘average’ people I encounter still aren’t representative of everyone, but they’re definitely more average than me (and strong Nat voters). I don’t think it’d be fair to them to say they like Slater scum. Mostly they don’t even know or care about what Whale Oil is, and a conversation about it which I listened in on was just riddled with misunderstandings.

    It’d be closer to say that they either don’t care about it, or are sick of it, or just don’t have an appetite for any of the wild complexity and detail that’s been blasted at them by journos in a short space of time when there are so many other things they have to work through in life besides politics. If you don’t follow blogs, or even just don’t follow political blogs, there’s a whole new level of understanding to grasp before being able to “get” how and why this is all significant in the wider scheme, and how it affects you. Without that, it comes across as insignificant people playing stupid insignificant games.

    I’ve heard plenty of complaining about how ultra-sick of politics they are in general. Nicky Hager was seen as a left wing nut-job even before he was in the news recently, but I did actually explain some of what was in the book to people. It wasn’t challenged so much as used to confirm existing simplified perceptions that all politicians are slimy and untrustworthy. They won’t bother to read it themselves because it sounds like nothing new and there are other more important things to worry about.

    They’ll still vote National because the alternative is perceived as worse.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: TVNZ: Emptied out,

    which will see the decommissioning of its Wellington outside broadcast truck, the one that brings you Back Benches.

    Does this mean the likely end for Back Benches, or just a transition to whichever entity buys the truck and gives it a new paint job? I've often thought of Back Benches as one of the more impressive news and current affairs shows that TVNZ developed, even though it ended up on Prime, because it shows politics and politicians from a different perspective than what's often shown in other media.

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  • Speaker: David Fisher: The OIA arms race, in reply to Angela Hart,

    The trouble is that the way things are works wonderfully well for those in power. Unless that changes, why should they fix it?

    How did we end up with some of the existing stuff, like the original OIA and the culture that followed before all these efforts to sidestep it, and the Bill of Rights Act, and MMP? (That's a genuine question.) All of those things have tended to reduce the influence of those in power, or at least contradict it.

    Does it take a strong opposition party to pick it up as a policy so much that they're obliged to implement it if elected?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: David Fisher: The OIA arms race, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    The other side of that is the excuse that the OIA is expensive and should be curtailed.

    It depends on perspective, really, given the cost of Ombudsmans’ investigations, invoiced or directly funded, could be greatly reduced if government agencies did their jobs and complied with the law in the first place. Maybe a criminal incentive is needed, but it might be harder to get genuine results with so many opportunities for Ministers and public servants to deflect responsibility. It might be decades before there’s a precedent, if ever.

    But I take the point that there are conflicting political goals and spin. Someone would doubtless jump a soap-box to shout “compliance is hard”, and that type of resistance will always be a problem with making the system more effective. But right now, the Ombudsman’s funding is just a token nod to make it appear there’s a valiant effort for compliance when in practice it’s a mechanism for parliament to put a leash on the office, or let it be overloaded, whenever it’s deemed politically inconvenient.

    My own argument for invoicing, even if agencies can find the money, would be that it turns a difficult-to-enforce law into a financial line that would have to show up on budgets, and have be explained in those terms to people who care about money. It also puts the costs where they lie, as part of a project’s budget within an agency, instead of having an Ombudsman needing to handle often unpredicted spikes of complaints on a flat budget, because of the whim of a Minister.

    I think it’d be worth debating, anyway. It’s a shame that Parliament booted out the idea a couple of years ago without any serious consideration.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: David Fisher: The OIA arms race, in reply to Idiot Savant,

    if you make a polite enquiry and a public servant fobs you off, ask them if that is their final response

    I know it doesn’t always work, especially with many of the situations described here, but if I just want something uncontroversial then I tend to just ask politely before anything else, and with no specific reference to the OIA. Often it’ll be back within a day or two of an email being flicked from the front desk info services of an agency around the most appropriate staff, without anyone even having considered putting it into a formal OIA workflow process and all-but-making-sure that I won’t see a response for 4 weeks as it sits in middle managers’ in-trays for a week at a time waiting for their signatures between other work. As others have noted the Act doesn’t state that a request has to explicitly state it’s under the OIA, so the clock still began when my initial request went in, and that date can still be applied with the rest of the OIA if they don’t seem to be playing nicely for who-knows-what reason.

    Given how intent some NZ agencies seem to be on crippling the process in recent years, I’m surprised we haven’t yet seen more implementation of the OIA’s S15 provisions, to allow charging for processing requests, as an informal deterrent. eg. In Australia (which apparently does also seem to require explicit requesting under their FOI Act for them to care about responding) I found Parks Victoria’s non-refundable $26.50 fee for submitting any Freedom of Information request, plus a possible further $19.90/hour of time for searching their documents, to be a depressingly effective deterrent to actually asking them for information. It’s probably mostly only a deterrent against poor people, though. Be wary of that type of thing appearing on the horizon in NZ. Given the rules that are already being bent or outright broken, I bet it could be seen as a possible tactic to put off some bloggers who might be seen as a “threat”.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: David Fisher: The OIA arms race, in reply to A S,

    Partially, it is because they don't have to do the actual donkey work if an Ombudsmens complaint is lodged (which was always a useful tool to motivate junior colleagues to the do the job right the first time), but largely it does come down to not just Ministers but also CEs not wanting anything out there that can make them look bad, or cause bad press.

    I had more of a rant in the other thread, but at the moment I feel that allowing the Ombudsman to invoice agencies for investigations into their OIA handling would go a significant way towards addressing this. On one hand it isolates the Ombudsman's funding from Parliament, so that it can be funded for its actual workload to uphold the law against shoddy agency interpretations, instead of merely the amount of work the government chooses to restrict it to. It also creates a direct financial incentive for OIA compliance which CEOs will be forced to account for in front of Ministers, Treasury and the public.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 439 posts Report Reply

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