If she doesn’t go now, the National government crashes and burns along with her.
I'd like to think so. But Key and National have a problem here: they went so hard with the "nothing to see here" and "dissolving before his eyes" response to Hager's book, that Key is not really in a position to back down much at all, let alone concede such a huge blow as dumping a Minister. It would undermine the very argument that they've been making. This is why he was so reluctant to even criticise her at all - the "unwise" characterisation was very begrudging. Unless there's something else wrt Collins, I'd be very surprised if they don't charge on regardless.
From the w.oil link:
There is something vulnerable and helpless about her, and I have this soft spot for women like her in a kitten or puppy rescue kind of way.
Wow. All class. By "class" I mean pathetic misogynist.
I’m really going to regret asking this, but what’s wrong about qualifying claims like Rodney Hide sent sexually explicit texts to a young woman?
Nothing. I was just saying my take on du Plessis-Allan’s use of ‘allegedly’ was not the same as DeepRed’s, i.e. I don’t think it was meant to sound dismissive of the book per se.
- "Particularly since she emphasised the word ‘allegedly’ umpteens of times."
I took that as making a self-aware kind of joke about the whole having to say "allegedly" thing.
That's good. And yeah I had seen that 20 minute grilling on 3 news on demand. It was heartening after the relatively poor performance by Espinar in interviewing Joyce on National radio (who then bizarrely became really tenacious when interviewing Cunliffe immediately afterwards).
...certainly worthy of wider investigation.
My faith in journalism in NZ in general will be restored if one or more mainstream journalists takes up the points you're referring to, Matthew. Won't hold my breath, tho'.
I believe it was actually Slater and Ede.
Oops, sorry, yes Slater and Ede, as per the quotation I used!
Yeah that was my thinking too. If you go out and accidentally leave the door wide open and someone walks in to your house and steels stuff, they haven't broken into your house, but they've still committed a crime. I'm not sure how well that matches (in terms of the law) with the apparent actions of Slater and Jordan.
The Labour party might not like it but it was open. I’d be surprised if this would stand up in court and it was arguably in the public interest too (as Whale Oil said “can’t secure a web site, not fit for government”). If this does stand up in court as “unauthorised access”, I’d be worried about what else might be hacking.
Michael, Labour aren’t saying the site was hacked. Here is the claim…
Author Nicky Hager claims in his book Dirty Politics that Key adviser Jason Ede and Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater conspired over information relating to Labour Party membership details, including credit card records, after a security flaw was discovered on the Labour website in 2011.
An analogy would be the difference between breaking into someone’s house (“hacking”), and walking into someone’s house because they accidentally left the door open.
And illegal or not, John Key denied this had anything to do with the National party. This has proven to be false.
Oh, and if all they had wanted to do was point out that Labour hadn't properly secured their website, then they could have just, you know, done that.
Yes. All of it.
I agree. This is an important article.
But still, I especially like:
Ask how these policies think of schools: as a key part of the democratic social fabric that binds us together, community spaces, collectively funded, open to all and open to inspection? As places where every one of us can learn not only what we’re capable of for ourselves, but how to play our part of the bigger story?
Or as vectors to individual advancement, easily consolidated and trimmed like so many factories, judged by their balance sheet, with “failing” schools – or students – handily bundled together for sale to the lowest tender?
[I haven’t caught up on the comments yet, I’m just posting this as a vote of support for Jolisa’s post.]