although it’s not out of the question that McVicar could pull enough votes from Tremain to let Nash squeak through.
That would be an upset, given that Chris Tremain is quitting Parliament at this election! National's candidate for Napier is Wayne Walford (which is, apparently, a real name!)
Serious question though - when have the police ever actually progressed an Electoral Commission referral to the stage of pressing charges?
They do it sometimes in relation to people who "double vote". But in regards other matters … never, to my knowledge.
Hey - the system works!
That’s because it’s imported, tasteless, has an icky flavour and very difficult to stomach.
Tasteless and with an icky flavour! Act just can’t win, can they?
If it were so obviously illegal why wasn’t something done back then?
Not sure it is "so obviously illegal" ... there's an argument that if you are allowed onto Labour's network freely, then you are "authorised" under the Act to access anything that is publicly accessible. Sort of like if you're let into someone's house for a party, then it isn't unlawful to wander into their unlocked bedroom. So let's just say that it's arguable whether the activity was unlawful.
Why, then, was no complaint laid? Well, if you are Labour, would you want this issue in the news over the next few months?
Oh, dammit. You type too fast.
All that is required is that the access was done ‘knowing that he or she is not authorised’. This would include taking advantage of a poorly configured server to reveal documents that are clearly not meant to be publicly available.
Exactly. If someone pushes on a door, finds it’s unlocked, and walks through it to take whatever they can find inside, it seems a bit odd to say “well, of course if they leave it open you haven’t really done anything wrong!”
In law, probably no difference at all - whosoever hacked Slater breached s. 252 of the Crimes Act, and maybe s. 249 as well. But this isn't really about whether hacking Slater was legal or not. It's about what ought to be done with the material gained from that (illegal) hack and passed on to Hager without him asking for it/knowing who had given it to him. And, as you note, "Nicky’s not twisting the emails, I’d imagine, and has meticulously checked everything", which makes the use of the material quite different from the ClimateGate example.
Point being - the ethics of how (stolen) material is used is not governed entirely by the fact that the material was stolen.
Wondering if anyone has changed their views at all.
I think it's fair to say that the darker fears - she was being parachuted in to destroy the office from the inside - have been proven wrong.
The “calls” came from former North Shore comedy mayor and current New Zealand First MP Andrew Williams talking to Leighton Smith.
Given the "Taxpayer Union's" linkages with one David Farrar, it's interesting to revisit how he treats the utterances of Andrew Williams on subjects he disagrees with him on: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/fail-2.html
I’m sure she can. I just don’t see what she brings to whatever it is that is actually different between the Internet Party and Mana. If there is nothing, then my comment that it’s a sham stands.
I don't think anyone would claim that Harre was chosen to drive IP policy development in the IT/tech freedom area. I think the idea more is that she'll front that policy as developed by others, will manage the relationship with MANA and bring a general measure of competence and professionalism to the enterprise. Those political skills are why she's there, not her internet learnings.
Does this make the exercise a "sham"? Well, political reality is that without a tie-in with the MANA Movement, the IP isn't going to get into Parliament. And without getting into Parliament, the exercise is a futile one. So stepping back and looking at this in terms of pure power dynamics, MANA actually held more cards in this liaison than did the IP. So if the price of a deal was choosing a leader that the MANA Movement could recognise as "one of us", then the IP pretty much had to pay it.