Posts by mark taslov

  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to JacksonP,

    I think you might be over thinking it. Just a little bit.

    Hehe, I was lying in bed unable to nod off, mulling over why the spokesman for a generation is always white and a musician…yeah for sure PJ. Nice pics, cool to see in the deep of winter.


    Thank you. hibernation beckons.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Sacha,

    I guess the question there is Sacha do you sincerely believe that I am saying that pop culture and pop music are two facets of Lorde, or would it be more likely that the way she looks and the way she sounds are the two facets of Lorde being referred to?

    If it wasn’t clear;p the facets of Lorde I referred to are the way she looks and the way she sounds.

    IMHO, the way she sounds fits snuggly within the parameters of both music and culture, the way she looks fits within culture, and as an element in the performance of the music, but ultimately distinct from the (pure) music itself, in that it can’t be detected by the naked ear unless the artist is sporting some close mic-ed taffeta or something. I’m interested in what I can hear. That quote you excerpted above outlined the limitations of my comment and possible contribution.

    My reasoning for prefacing my comment in that way was that I do understand that pop music means so much more to most people; the look, the moves, the lighting, costume and hairstyle etc.

    The style that Joel and Ella have wrought as Lorde is influential in their industry both in content and production.

    Absolutely, no question about it, No 1, And based on what I’ve read here today I’d guess it’s the lyrics that’ll have the biggest influence. And still, the whole package will be light years more influential than the Lightning Twins ;)

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Sacha,

    Again?

    is absolutely massive, no question about it, both in terms of pop music and western pop culture.

    As Russell later said:

    She looks different

    pop culture

    and she sounds different

    pop music.

    Stevie Wonder gets to appreciate one of these two facets of Lorde, it's the Friday music post, and that's where my interest lies, I feel comfortable commenting on the music.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Danielle,

    Do go on, genuinely. I’m not at all clear on what you’re saying there Danielle. After all, the only reason I responded is that you were quoting directly from my post

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I can see that you might not exactly agree with the comment you quoted Mark

    Yeah, I have no clue, that comment was just something I encountered and is obviously (mis)informed by ambiguity in the way Lorde has been marketed – speculation fueled. This emphasis on Ella as child prodigy from a literary family is almost inviting the reaction of that commentator, not in the least helped by, as noted incorrectly, the *4* year period between signing and the unveiling . The music stands up by itself IMHO.

    I am likewise enjoying the discussion, Ella, Joel, this work, and the phenomenon it’s created is far more deserving of further analysis than so much pulp we’re served.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to mark taslov,

    Most cynically expounded on in this comment under the Ann Powers piece:

    You’re correct in thinking that Lorde is more like Alanis Morrissette than Kurt Cobain, but unfortunately not for the reason you probably intended. Morrissette was as much a manufactured record industry creation as Lorde is. Alanis was also discovered as a teen, paired up with producers and songwriters from the record company, given songs to sing, and given an “edgy” persona to go with it. Lorde is no different. Her music was all written by her co-writer, a 30 year old named Joel Little, and her lyrics are likely mostly his work as well. So, the same industry that brought you Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, and Lana Del Rey are now bringing you Lorde. The backstory of her being “just a kid” who writes her own songs is completely silly. No “kid” gets signed to a record label at 12 years old, is groomed for 5 years, and creates their own destiny. These things are planned to the very last detail, for the maximum impact and highest sales. It’s working too, just like they always do. Good for Lorde, and the album sounds really good for what it is, but the whole “voice of a generation” thing is nonsense. She’s as much a voice of her generation as Justin Bieber is. Again, another kid discovered young, mentored by the recording industry, and given songs to sing and an image to go with it.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year,

    Elton John/Bernie Taupin partnership

    Sorry I was busy – And yes, that shoe does fit a lot more comfortably Ian, it does appear to be Ella’s brand which isn’t a great departure from what I mentioned earlier:

    The solo artist via team, filling the charts with commercials for their moniker

    A butler Alfred and a Lucius Fox behind every Batman, in contrast to Gotye who broke that mold entirely. Something that was not fully followed up on in the way Lorde was marketed. And so in a sense, creatively at least;

    is it a dual entity?

    remains the great unanswered question...compared to say Janice Ian.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Danielle,

    Read the teenage girls’ tweets

    That doesn’t sound like something I’d be too keen on truth be told ;)

    “The men don’t know, but the little girls understand.”

    Maybe it’s just me but I don’t find cissexual assumption helpful or particularly relevant. perhaps best left in the 1940s – the assumption. The tune is great.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    – Ella does the words and vocals and Joel Little does the music,

    Yeah, despite the marketing angle, It's hard to be quite sure how cut and dried that is since this quote that Russell posted:

    She works with producer Joel Little whom she credits with turning her "pages and pages of something" into song form. "You know how Raymond Carver had Gordon Lish, the editor who made him what he was? I feel like Joel was that for me.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Some Year, in reply to Russell Brown,

    That would be a fair call. But I would strongly contend you’d pick ‘Royals’ out of any lineup too.

    Certainly, no question about it.

    But pop’s never been about “just the music…She looks different and she sounds different when she opens her mouth. When teenage girls respond to those things, it makes a difference.

    I’d always figured Adele might inspire a similar response amongst white teens, as I said;

    is absolutely massive, no question about it, both in terms of pop music and western pop culture.

    So I’m quite happy with the amendment you made there Russell.

    With regards to Nirvana, and particularly this lyrical focus;

    “Teen Spirit” revitalized the idea of what rock could be. Sneaking in, “Royals” suggests that pop can have deeper layers. Nirvana lobbed a Molotov into the charts. Lorde released a virus

    I’m strongly inclined to agree. Virus is the word. Personally I’m missing something in the detail, in the sense that when Nirvana broke with that track it didn’t sound like remotely like anything else that had climbed that high in the charts, at least for a long long time. There was an audible shift, and it influenced a world of music, Beijing had a massive punk scene when I first arrived there.

    That the bulk of Royal’s subversion is specifically lyrical means that to the majority of the world who don’t speak English, especially in developing countries, it doesn’t sound that much different to music already being made and so this subversion will take a lot longer to make its impact. For native English speakers and countries with a long association with the language and culture I guess that’s an easy thing to overlook. It’s Dylanesque. but there’s no moonwalk.

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