Could “time” be the variant. As is with addiction for other drugs. For most drugs it’s over time that dependence occurs.
Whether addiction is inherent in the substances themselves or specific to individual constitutions should most probably feature in this discussion.
In 2011, 4.2 million Americans aged 12 or older (or 1.6 percent) had used heroin at least once in their lives. It is estimated that about 23 percent of individuals who use heroin become dependent on it.
Various findings here and here seem inclined to attribute dependence to subjective and collective misery, poverty and general hopelessness. Issues far beyond the mandate of the Ministry of Health, perhaps taxation could be a contributing factor Ian, perhaps over-regulation*.
Looking objectively at a situation where people are driven en masse to expose our own machinery to unknown and untested substances with flagrant disregard for the consequences/ damage and /or a desire to facilitate these effects: The willingness to apportion blame on the substances or the users themselves rather than working wholeheartedly to change the controlled conditions (society) in which these choices are made, doesn’t seem far removed from the case of the dependent user for whom these chemicals likewise serve as a crutch and means to obfuscate the underlying problem.
I think you might be over thinking it. Just a little bit.
Hehe, I was lying in bed unable to nod off, mulling over why the spokesman for a generation is always white and a musician…yeah for sure PJ. Nice pics, cool to see in the deep of winter.
Thank you. hibernation beckons.
I guess the question there is Sacha do you sincerely believe that I am saying that pop culture and pop music are two facets of Lorde, or would it be more likely that the way she looks and the way she sounds are the two facets of Lorde being referred to?
If it wasn’t clear;p the facets of Lorde I referred to are the way she looks and the way she sounds.
IMHO, the way she sounds fits snuggly within the parameters of both music and culture, the way she looks fits within culture, and as an element in the performance of the music, but ultimately distinct from the (pure) music itself, in that it can’t be detected by the naked ear unless the artist is sporting some close mic-ed taffeta or something. I’m interested in what I can hear. That quote you excerpted above outlined the limitations of my comment and possible contribution.
My reasoning for prefacing my comment in that way was that I do understand that pop music means so much more to most people; the look, the moves, the lighting, costume and hairstyle etc.
The style that Joel and Ella have wrought as Lorde is influential in their industry both in content and production.
Absolutely, no question about it, No 1, And based on what I’ve read here today I’d guess it’s the lyrics that’ll have the biggest influence. And still, the whole package will be light years more influential than the Lightning Twins ;)
is absolutely massive, no question about it, both in terms of pop music and western pop culture.
As Russell later said:
She looks different
and she sounds different
Stevie Wonder gets to appreciate one of these two facets of Lorde, it's the Friday music post, and that's where my interest lies, I feel comfortable commenting on the music.
Do go on, genuinely. I’m not at all clear on what you’re saying there Danielle. After all, the only reason I responded is that you were quoting directly from my post
I can see that you might not exactly agree with the comment you quoted Mark
Yeah, I have no clue, that comment was just something I encountered and is obviously (mis)informed by ambiguity in the way Lorde has been marketed – speculation fueled. This emphasis on Ella as child prodigy from a literary family is almost inviting the reaction of that commentator, not in the least helped by, as noted incorrectly, the *4* year period between signing and the unveiling . The music stands up by itself IMHO.
I am likewise enjoying the discussion, Ella, Joel, this work, and the phenomenon it’s created is far more deserving of further analysis than so much pulp we’re served.
Most cynically expounded on in this comment under the Ann Powers piece:
You’re correct in thinking that Lorde is more like Alanis Morrissette than Kurt Cobain, but unfortunately not for the reason you probably intended. Morrissette was as much a manufactured record industry creation as Lorde is. Alanis was also discovered as a teen, paired up with producers and songwriters from the record company, given songs to sing, and given an “edgy” persona to go with it. Lorde is no different. Her music was all written by her co-writer, a 30 year old named Joel Little, and her lyrics are likely mostly his work as well. So, the same industry that brought you Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, and Lana Del Rey are now bringing you Lorde. The backstory of her being “just a kid” who writes her own songs is completely silly. No “kid” gets signed to a record label at 12 years old, is groomed for 5 years, and creates their own destiny. These things are planned to the very last detail, for the maximum impact and highest sales. It’s working too, just like they always do. Good for Lorde, and the album sounds really good for what it is, but the whole “voice of a generation” thing is nonsense. She’s as much a voice of her generation as Justin Bieber is. Again, another kid discovered young, mentored by the recording industry, and given songs to sing and an image to go with it.
Elton John/Bernie Taupin partnership
Sorry I was busy – And yes, that shoe does fit a lot more comfortably Ian, it does appear to be Ella’s brand which isn’t a great departure from what I mentioned earlier:
The solo artist via team, filling the charts with commercials for their moniker
A butler Alfred and a Lucius Fox behind every Batman, in contrast to Gotye who broke that mold entirely. Something that was not fully followed up on in the way Lorde was marketed. And so in a sense, creatively at least;
is it a dual entity?
remains the great unanswered question...compared to say Janice Ian.
Read the teenage girls’ tweets
That doesn’t sound like something I’d be too keen on truth be told ;)
“The men don’t know, but the little girls understand.”
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t find cissexual assumption helpful or particularly relevant. perhaps best left in the 1940s – the assumption. The tune is great.