Posts by st ephen

  • Hard News: Approved by lunchtime, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    One day we'll have evidence-based legislation

    Nah - according to John Key, scientists are like lawyers - you can always find one who will give the counter-view. So we're stuck with legislation-based evidence for the foreseeable future.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: ‘Kiwimeter’ is a methodological…, in reply to Moz,

    Perhaps it's more that people who hate everything about prostitution might also hate having anything to do with a mailed out survey on the topic, but will nevertheless answer questions politely when talking to the nice man on the phone. Likewise people who think prostitution is a complete non-issue may lack motivation to fill in a form and mail it in. A phone survey might stand a better chance of capturing which of those two groups is larger, even if the overall response rate is lower.

    I think my beef is perhaps that the issues I want to get a handle on are thought to come from a sense of frustration, disillusionment and disengagement. An opt-in online survey with a small response rate doesn't seem like a good way of finding out what the disengaged are thinking.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: ‘Kiwimeter’ is a methodological…, in reply to st ephen,

    Sorry, that reads as more snarky than intended. I was going for light-hearted cynicism, given that every profession can be accused of the same sort of thing.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: ‘Kiwimeter’ is a methodological…, in reply to Andrew Robertson,

    you can have a very representative sample with a 12.1% response rate

    Purely by chance though, no? And only if it turns out that "willingness to fill in an on-line survey" is not correlated with the things you're trying to measure. I'd have thought that "willingness to fill in a survey to see how you rank on the Kiwimeter" is highly positively correlated with the beliefs of the sort of people who feel intensely proud to be Kiwis.
    I guess I hear the other side all the time - "these methods are accepted and widely applied (Wagon-Circling, 2011) and the response rate is typical for this type of survey (Gravy and Train, 2012)".

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: ‘Kiwimeter’ is a methodological…,

    I saw the Kiwimeter survey on facebook, so I naturally assumed it was going to tell me that my "Kiwi IQ" was in the top 4% of the world and by the way - here is some more click-bait that might appeal to your narcissism. It didn't work on Firefox so I didn't persevere.
    I guess all surveys are self-selecting to some extent, but I still have an issue with the sort of things I come across at work. My response is always the same: "Put your graphs and statistical models away. You got a 12.1% response rate. All we know is that those people are the freaks, the outliers. Stop pretending that this is now "evidence" for "evidence-based policy".

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: The flagging referendum,

    Am I alone in reading loaded language here?

    Not subtle, was it. " Don't forget that our current flag was designed by some crusty old English toff - Admiral Sir Albert Hastings Markham, KCB?" Why is the name of the flag's designer suddenly relevant?
    Plus all that other stuff about how this is the time to decide which flag we'll stand for into the future, it's a unique opportunity, we could never possibly be given another chance.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Polity: Leaving only footprints, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Yes, I've been fell walking (and scrambling) in the UK. And done some pub-to-pub walking. It's fantastic. But my view is that "tramping" is a particular word used in NZ to describe a particular recreational activity that is psychologically and physically different - if only because the environment, facilities and population density are different. Walking the Tongariro Crossing with a line of literally hundreds of people stretching into the distance feels much more like fell walking than tramping. Hunting and fishing also seem like quite different activities compared with the idea of tramping described in the Te Ara article (once you get past the use of 'trampers' to refer to people travelling for trade, food-gathering and warfare).

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Polity: Leaving only footprints, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    It’s called “hiking” or “walking” outside NZ.

    Yeah, nah.Tramping in New Zealand is not the same as walking in Europe. Or at least, it wasn't in the past. You can certainly 'walk' our Great Walks, and end each day at a large lodge with flush toilets and gas lighting and cooking. (Now that DOC is feverishly rubber-stamping tourist concessions, it won't be long before European-style catering is added). But you can't 'walk' a traditional tramping track - ie. one that hasn't been formed by a digger, drained and surfaced with a foot of packed gravel. And since tramping was never popular in NZ beyond a tiny white, middle-class minority and is even less popular with moneyed tourists, the whole sub-culture with its etiquette and taxpayer-funded playground are pretty much doomed. I'm sad about that, but understand why others are not.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: Waitara and the perils of…, in reply to Ross Bell,

    You're not only more restrained but also quicker.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: Waitara and the perils of…,

    Vote these men out. It is not that easy.

    True - they appear to be cloning them.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 239 posts Report Reply

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