I am just loving this thread , loving it. I just wished I had more time to contribute but at the very least I want to thank some here in what little time I do have .
To izogi for a great take on the dark side of presidential branding and the kick ass, “Tread on people like this instead of including them and they’ll do more than just disagree with you. They’ll start to hate you “
To Dean Wallis for his passionate call to take our country back . A country where we have a “real job, making real stuff for real people who need it” . Brilliant!
To Ian Dalziel , our own wild eye mystic running through the village, wildly waving and yelling at the death cult, proselytizing tinkers in our midst, mist veiled by their own dissonance. Shine on, shine on you dalziel diamond.
To mark taslov for so laterally linking Lewdness with the nuances of privacy, I feel so.. naked, writing emails now.
To Ben Wilson for sharing the Internalized Really Complicated Situation in his head as he works out – so fluidly- a beautifully constructed coalition , still a work in progress. “Our ability to signal is not limited to our vote.” Great signal work Ben .
More Vision than Dumbassery here.
Why encourage him? He’s distracting, he’s annoying and he’s wasting time we could be spending in a valuable exchange of ideas and information. IMHO he’s best ignored, attempts to get him to engage in sensible discourse have been made aplenty.
On the other hand we wouldn’t have had Ian’s pearl without Jake’s irritation.
The irritant has done its job now and can be washed down with a nice Chardonnay with the rest of the oyster, a wee burp, then ignored.
As for Ian's Pearl its a , well its a pearler, love it . still re reading it , he's a treasure here, a public address Taonga
Just today, I’ve been called “an imbecile” “a sock puppet” “a troll bingo” and “creep”
And now a bunny .
Lift your game !
To the level of your game Jake ?
What is your game by the way?
Govt are specifically saying GCSB doesn't mass surveil. But what about NSA? Or another organisation using GCSB facilities? Words can be twisted so many ways, we could be paranoid, they could be lying.
Indeed and the meaning of the phrase Mass Surveillance can be stretched in different ways.
"We don't do mass surveillance ... only meta data which is very technical and you wouldn't understand. "
"We don't do mass surveillance of all NZers ...only 90% of them"
"I can advise that I have not identified any indiscriminate interception of New Zealanders’ data in my work to date" -.... means nothing really , she could be just incompetent , has limited access or has a nuanced view on the word indiscriminate or simply hasn't got across it all yet.
Every so often there is a an event which moves our understanding of ethics on in a major way. The process takes a long time and is painful
Thanks Hilary for reminding us of the time frame for real change.
We can remain hopeful that National does not get back in and all will be sweet but the dirty political PR gaming stuff has become systemic and will need addressing anyway. Just having the "good guys" in power won't necessarily clean up politics.
If the Nats do get back in then the process continues - we hope - public perceptions will change over time , more will eventually be done to clean up politics and the PR industry generally.
Its going to take a lot of seriously pissed off people to continue to voice concern and rage.
I hope we all have the stamina , despair sits on our shoulders waiting to turn rage into a passive turn of the head and a whatever....
But I digress
Digress away Sofie its like I am trying to looking at this huge picture byzantine in its complexity, then a dog walks through the picture. Perfect.
There is definitely some interesting psychology going on.
You bet !
Willful ignorance and denial have been part of the human story forever.
Fear turns our eyes away from abuse and dis-ease
As Bruce Springsteen sang
Fear, its a powerful thing. It will turn heart black you can trust
Is there a stage when you move past anger to sadness?
Skipped sadness went straight to despair , when will voters get the extent and dark depths of this shit?
He made David Cunliffe look statesman-like – a major gaffe and unmade points notwithstanding.
Yes I noticed that , Key did the school yard larriken thing and showed us that nasty little side we see in Parliament debates , he seemed obsessed with "beating" labour
and as you said Cecelia David Cunliffe looked quite statesman like in comparison even to the point of acknowledging National had done a good job of getting through the recession .
The production values were bloody aweful through , audio levels all over the place , the intros were far too long and it was very hard for me to hear what Press Editor was saying.
I think Cunliffe did really well and it restored my faith a little .