Cracker: Spotted
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I heard a radio snippet today of Winston saying with what sounded like a straight face that voters knew he always told the truth. Unless dementia tops 5% I don't like his chances.
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I don't think Winston needs to be in Parliament to do his job.
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Sacha, in reply to
sadly his 'job' seems to be getting attention.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
sadly his ‘job’ seems to be getting attention.
Of course it's not. It's being a representative voice for the disenfranchised.
(There is such a thing as benefit of the doubt, you know. For a reason.)
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JacksonP, in reply to
I don’t think Winston needs to be in Parliament...
...period.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
I don’t think Winston needs to be in Parliament…
…period.
Oh boring! No matter what else you might think, the man's got style.
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'demonstrating the media's inadequacies in a highly amusing manner'. He calls them as he sees them.
It’s being a representative voice for the disenfranchised.
the man’s got style.
Fuck me! you should read what you write sometimes and be forced to look at the history of said politician. Yep, matchsticks in the eyelids for you, if you keep it up.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
Have you met said politician? Looked him in the eye as you ask your questions?
I have.
I don't agree with how he's gone about it, but I get where he's coming from. He speaks for the old, for those no-one else speaks for or listens to.
And what is wrong with that?
Open eyes indeed!
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Sacha, in reply to
He speaks for the old
I've often said they deserve better.
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@DCBC - I disagree with most of what you say. I've had to deal with Winston many a time over the years. Try and ask him a straight question, he'll dodge it. Ask him why he said what he said, he'll deny saying it. Show him the quote, he'll say it wasn't him. etc ad naseum. The media ain't perfect, that's for sure, but the guy's an arsehole who learnt everything about media relations from his mentor Rob Muldoon.
Sure, some unimaginative members of the press might miss having him and his time-wasting antics around, but this member don't need him, not one bit.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
Totally.
But let's get real. He is not a fool and he has achieved things he said he would do. Anyone's parents or grandparents use a gold card on the bus to get them places they couldn't go to otherwise?
I think you thank Winston for that. Something real and tangible. That benefits many people and by benefiting them benefits everyone.
But don't mind me. Snide comment away.
Obviously surface matters, not substance. Oh no! Just judge the surface.
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He speaks for the old because he knows they're the most likely to go for his racist populism and matinee idol looks. He goes for racist populism because it's the easiest way to get votes, from said old people.
And yes, I've spoken to the man face to face on many occasions. On one such occasion I interviewed him and questioned his statement, in Parliament that week, that "half the refugees coming into this country have AIDS, and that's a fact". It wasn't anything close to a fact, of course, it was completely untrue, but it got traction.
"I never said that", he said.
"Yes you did", I said, and played him the tape of said statement. That should be that, I thought.
What followed was 15 minutes of wasted time, denials, arguments about grammar and so forth, all because the guy is a lying prick, and a complete waste of space.
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Sacha, in reply to
Just because I agree he has achieved some useful things doesn't mean I'm bound to admire Winnie's methods. He has also wasted oxygen others could probably have done more with.
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andin, in reply to
Looked him in the eye as you ask your questions?
What is this, the Wild West?
Have I stared the guy down... piss off -
DCBCauchi, in reply to
Where did I ask you to admire his methods?
I recall saying something about not agreeing with them in fact.
And as for media manipulation, well. He knows how to deal with lying pricks too. Give as good as you get.
The man’s got style.
(Oh right, those methods I do admire.)
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
Try reading.
Did I say stare him down?
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Try listening to people with an open mind. Don’t assume you know what they really mean. Don’t judge them on appearances. You might be surprised. You don’t actually know it all. No-one does. However, everyone has something of value to contribute. If you let them.
The cosy consensus makes things easier but it is wrong.
Unwanted advice #99075.
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I just realised I find it very hard to find any difference between someone sticking up for Winston Peters, and trolling.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
Back to this again? I give up.
Keep it cosy kids.
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Damian Christie, in reply to
everyone has something of value to contribute. If you let them.
I'm pretty sure Winston has had more than his fair share of taxpayer funded opportunities to contribute. About 30 years worth of opportunities, give or take. And what is his legacy? Free Burger King fries and ferry rides for the oldies.
I want my money back.
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Sacha, in reply to
Unwanted advice
You said it, my egg-sucking chum
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Back to this again? I give up.
Keep it cosy kids.
Oh, please. If you think it's such a clique, piss off.
If you're going to stick around, show some respect for the place, and stop blaming the community because people sometimes find your arguments strange.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
You said it, my egg-sucking chum
Nice! I even have a grandmother-teaching outfit.
But, yeah, I'm over it.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
Oh, please. If you think it’s such a clique, piss off.
If you’re going to stick around, show some respect for the place, and stop blaming the community because people sometimes find your arguments strange.
The media/political consensus that's so freaked out by Winston. Should've been clearer. The consensus that dismisses him as a clown and belittles his achievements.
But I don't want to argue over arguing, nor do I want to persuade anyone of anything. Obviously, I have nothing worthwhile to say here. That's ok.
Cheers.
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Damian Christie, in reply to
Back to this again? I give up.
It's happened before? I haven't been around PAS much these past few months, so that's new to me, must just be a happy coincidence that I've arrived at the same conclusion others obviously have in the past.
So, yeah, I'm over it too.
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