Posts by andin

  • Up Front: What's the Big Idea?,

    But we need great persuasive communicators.

    No definitely NO. What we need is more people able to assess evidence themselves, and be able to reach a coherent conclusion. being persuaded by someone else to believe something just because that person is good at communicating can so often work against the evidence.
    Its all our problem now, act like it matters.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Up Front: What's the Big Idea?, in reply to BenWilson,

    That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that even if Fairness is the number one question dividing Left and Right, it’s not a sufficiently strong reason for most people to vote the way they do.

    Sounds to me like that is exactly what you are saying.
    The numbers get to be meaningless after a while.The problem is people/ us/you/me/the fuckwit down the road/the megalomaniac leader.
    And we still stubbornly refuse to see it, belittle anyone who dares point it out to us.
    If we ever came close to resolving it, it was when various sects tried to unite us around their designated sky fairy. As messy as that was.
    But its not an option anymore

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Up Front: What's the Big Idea?, in reply to BenWilson,

    It could even be the one question that maximally divides the population, the ideal question, the perfectly formed question.

    Some people EH! wont get behind a good idea unless it benefits them directly.
    The Right's favourite whipping cliche DAMN HIPPIES arent to blame for that.

    Just in case no one has noticed. The right wing of the political spectrum is out of ideas that will help humanity. They can talk it up all they like, its smoke and mirrors.
    United we stand, divided we're fucked.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Up Front: What's the Big Idea?,

    bit of that campaigning in poetry first?

    Yes big ideas expressed elegantly and simply, in a way that resonate's our rattled psyche's.
    You want this from our leaders who now call themselves 'politicians' not lords, dukes and sirs?
    Don't we all!
    I imagine some trusty underling scuttling along a vaulted corridor with the news.
    "Milord, milord the peasants are revolting!"
    Yep the message is misunderstood yet again.

    And so it goes...

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Media Take: We need to talk…,

    who are extremely anxious about being seen as the crazy druggie party.

    HAHA
    And those who aren't on drugs aren't crazy?
    One look around the world would dispel that myth.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Every option has costs, every…,

    unemployed kiwis are all lazy or on drugs

    Just to turn it around all employed kiwis are one step away from being exploitative condescending psychopaths who dont give a fuck about anyone or anything but their comfort and self image. Sorta like Trump, who being a human, exhibits traits that are universal not in a good way.

    And that is much more dangerous than being high and indolent for a while.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The Brexlection,

    “The cure for the evils of democracy is more democracy.”

    That would require the politicians to give a shit about the welfare of voters, especially those at the bottom of the societal heap.

    And the voting population to be informed, and with the ability to look past their own pocket.

    And both appear to be non existent in 2017

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Mike Moore: A pretty ordinary…, in reply to DeepRed,

    I dont know if I care when the 'turning point' was. These interviewee's arent suffering from their fucked ideas and decisions, but a lot of people still are and probably will for a long time to come.

    I'm finding it hard to care about their change of heart. To me it just words they throw out there to try and make themselves look more caring, than they ever acted when they were in power

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Mike Moore: A pretty ordinary…,

    If Espiner's going for a theme in his interviews maybe it would be looking back with regret. Has he done three? It's all very nice for the interviewee to talk freely
    Whatever constrained them before now?

    But we are living still with the consequences of these interviewee's , now regretted, decisions, choice of political direction.
    As welcome as their change of heart is. There were a lot of other voices, for a long time prior, warning against where it would lead.
    Do they now think what they did amounts to an abuse of power, or was it just more mind numbing bumbling humanity...

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Media Take: the poor health…, in reply to mpledger,

    Big businesses that do govt social work

    was never going to be a long lasting solution. And you cant accuse business people of being interested in the long term.
    " Make a buck and move on" is more likely to be their motto in recent years.

    Which has seen govts buy into a flawed business philosophy that has only come into vogue within their echo chamber in recent times.

    The faults were so obvious to start with, to actually think in would work even in the short term would have needed heroic amounts of cognitive dissonance.
    I mean heroicily idiotic. Cause they are still dishing up the same shit

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

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