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  • Hard News: Cabinet and the Reeferendum, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Haha snap
    My Thanks to Joe and Allison for that

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Rip It Up: A history of us, a…,

    Trying all the links at different places I get this.

    This site can’t be reached paperspast.natlib.govt.nz’s server IP address could not be found.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Cabinet and the Reeferendum, in reply to Craig Young,

    Family First is now trying to link cannabis with psychotic episodes.

    They really went out of their way to find those examples. A lot are behind paywalls and one I see was just people filling in questionnaires, so not all that reliable. But scaremongering none the less. Whats a lobby group to do, but drag stats out of the woodwork and make it look as if the world will descend into madness.
    I thought we had Donald Trump for that!

    How exactly does prudent behaviour when driving segue into cannabis prohibition?

    Via faulty reasoning thru sensationalism and a very male machismo outlook that whispers to the thinker, they must save people from themselves and ban stuff they dont approve of, or outside their norm.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The economics of shit speech, in reply to steven crawford,

    When an important person says something stupid on twitter, which could inflame hatred and anger, its gets published in the news paper.

    It used to be called gossip, and it was denigrated as useless. The funny thing is the purpose it serves isnt well understood or is lost in the mists of time. Its a leveler, the ultimate humanizer. An otherwise important person says something incredibly stupid/dumb/lazy ( say the king) it gives everyone a laugh he becomes just like the rest of us, another fool bumbling through life no better just better off.
    The part that is lost is the speaker is supposed to learn from it as well, just a little bit of humility with each idiotic utterance. That part is glossed over, now its the double down. Never admit to being wrong or in Donald Trumps case admit to being anything other than a perfect embodiment of human intellect. Poor fool, I would pity him if he wasnt such a danger.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Cabinet and the Reeferendum, in reply to Craig Young,

    this aspect of its propaganda has not been subjected to critical analysis and exposure

    Laughing at this stupid strategy is always fun, but then you run the risk of righteous offence being taken, and who knows how much mileage can be got out of that, tho you can be sure it’ll be driven as far & as hard as possible. A leaf symbol on packaging and childproofing are simple solutions. Tho ignorant self righteous indignation splashed everywhere can do damage on fully grown minds before a child is sighted.

    And this passage from the Vice article in unscrupulous hands could be spun to read sensationalist headline material if that was ones intention.

    “In 2013, eight children were admitted to the emergency room of Children’s Hospital Colorado after accidentally ingesting their parents’ pot food. Although this number is relatively low, it is a jump from the 2005–2013 time bracket, an eight-year span during which only eight children total were admitted.”

    Ya know the kind of thing “100% INCREASE IN ONE YEAR’ blah blah. So maybe let it die a natural media death of yesterdays news.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Cabinet and the Reeferendum, in reply to BenWilson,

    I just hope your right.

    , it’s people within the coalition.

    So they are aiming the gun at their feet?

    And if I have to read another fucking piece about what MP smoked pot and how they felt! ^$#*& FUCK !!!
    Typically the response is 'made me feel uncomfortable' REALLY! So you couldnt carry on with your normal bullshit social routine? Then it fucking worked, that is what is supposed to happen.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Cabinet and the Reeferendum, in reply to Sacha,

    Peter Dunne

    He's not impressed about the non binding part for one, and that there will be no worked up bill for all to peruse before voting, second. It all reads like political gamesmanship to me. Dont know what he's fretting about really, he's getting a fucking fat govt pension so he can just fuck off AFAIC.
    The Nats and FF are running full on scare campaigns which are more likely to influence the uninformed, that will be the biggest problem. I just want to be able to grow my own in peace. How long is that going to take? Fucking forever, death will come sooner at this rate.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Cabinet and the Reeferendum, in reply to Sacha,

    lobby the govt consultation process,

    So that means getting to Wellington at the right time and place. I hope finding that out is made easy for members of the public. Then theres the cost of getting there.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The economics of shit speech, in reply to Matthew Hooton,

    sinister and dangerous

    Forgive me for wanting a bit more specificity around your generalization.
    But I fail to see how suggesting that articles that require some working knowledge of the science specifically climate change should have some intellectual rigor, or at least an understanding of the topic rather than ones own reckons or quotes from obvious crackpots or outliers, is sinister and dangerous
    If were you not including that subject, could you please note that exception.

    And easy on the scare quotes eh!

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The economics of shit speech,

    Bullshit artist’s usually come well heeled and as its from an Aussie source let me just add 'No surprises there’
    If your quoting from a wealthy person (usually WCM’s) there’s a very strong probability its going to be spin, playing fast and loose with everything not in their interest to promote. Just sayin’

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1867 posts Report Reply

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