Hard News: Christchurch: Square Two
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Considering the 1984 Queen St rioters got agitated on less, it's remarkable the residents of ChCh still remain stiff upper lipped. How much longer they can stay like that, it's too soon to tell.
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nzlemming, in reply to
We'll send Dave Dobbyn down there - that'll rark them up proper!
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Hebe, in reply to
Oh god anything but that....haven't we had enough to bear. If I hear Loyal one more time I'll buy an Osti frock.
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Hebe,
Now I feel bad, Mr Dobbyn is a well-intentioned man, it's just I've heard Loyal too, too often.
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B Jones, in reply to
you could still live here quite easily.
See now, that just makes me think of the Fire Swamp. I'm not saying I'd build a summer home there, but the trees are actually quite lovely.
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David Haywood, in reply to
See now, that just makes me think of the Fire Swamp. I’m not saying I’d build a summer home there, but the trees are actually quite lovely.
I'm sick as a dog tonight (week 2 of a terrible cold) but this comment cheered me up no end.
I shall have to watch out for the Rodents of Unusual Size...
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Have been checking the Christchurch Quake Map. Noticed the splurge of quakes mainly on the plains from Sept to Feb. Then the dump on the Port Hills after Feb. Now checking the last 7 days it is obvious a new NW/SE line is developing parallel to the north coast of the Penisula from the north head of Lyttelton Harbour.
GNS has published the report of the newly discovered faults in Pegasus Bay. It shows the two previous quakes quite nicely.
The "active faulting likely" areas look likely candidates for the latest batch maybe??? (Seismo comment anyone???)
One could hazard a guess that these things are creeping east.....could they head towards and possibly link up to the Kaikoura trenchy thing out there??? Again, any Seismo comment??)
Geek Black Humour Warning: "Wow!! Look at all that Data."
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Kris V, in reply to
I hear ya... I was force-fed DD's greatest hits (incl Loyal) while waiting on hold for Studylink yesterday. It's almost as bad as Nature's Best after the 50th time...
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I shall have to watch out for the Rodents of Unusual Size…
Now that's not a nice thing to call the Minister Responsible for Earthquake Recovery!
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
I’ve heard Loyal too, too often
I think there is a maximum number of time you can hear any song. There are songs I loved from my youth that I'm just tired of now. Sadly Loyal was on such high rotation with all media that it's hit that maximum quite quickly.
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nzlemming, in reply to
heheh For the young among us, I was, of course, referring to this.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
heheh For the young among us, I was, of course, referring to this.
Which is not a particularly accurate account.
The police action started around a very small incident where a couple of morons on the roof of the walkway by the post office building, some way away from the main crowd, tried to piss on people passing below.
The police, still in riot-cop mode from the Springbok tour, grossly over-reacted and sent in officers in riot gear, sealing off the main exit from Aotea Square – and then ordered DD Smash to stop playing. But people physically couldn’t leave, because the police line blocked the exit, and the riot began from there.
Charging Dave was really only ever a way of trying to shirk blame for an idiotic piece of policing.
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Last night's CTV news. It's pretty depressing.
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Alice Ronald, in reply to
They're currently restricted to the Red Zone.
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ChrisW, in reply to
The "active faulting likely" areas look likely candidates for the latest batch maybe??? (Seismo comment anyone???)
One could hazard a guess that these things are creeping east.....could they head towards and possibly link up to the Kaikoura trenchy thing out there??? Again, any Seismo comment??)I don't think that map's "active faulting likely" was a prediction about the next year or few; but a tentative identification of 'active faults' in the sub-seafloor rocks and sediment, where 'active' means some sign of differential movement in the recent past on a geological scale say the last 20,000 years or maybe up to 100,000 years. Very different timeframes! Only tentative identification, either because of the poor data from shallow water close to shore where seaborne geophysical investigation gets problematic, or just because (as Dr Barnes is at pains to emphasise) the faults in Pegasus Bay have very low rates of movement by NZ standards, on that tens-of-thousands of years timeframe.
It looks to me that this week's magnitude 6.3 and the subsequent aftershocks are conforming to the pattern of the post-Feb aftershocks, being mainly on or about the same south-dipping fault under the Port Hills, and with a cluster of them aligned at what may be the eastern termination of that dipping fault zone, a little offshore. And this clustering/termination seems more distinctly so in this week's aftershocks, as befitting the more easterly 'parent'-quake. Not likely to be an indication of new faulting propagating further offshore or linking up with the Pegasus Canyon - that would be a surprise relative to the overall low rate of fault movement - but there have been plenty of surprises already.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
...and for the older folk among us,
he didn't mean these riots
(before my time, too..., but sadly, the times are ripe for similar occurrences this election year)...meanwhile in Athens and Vancouver
they were also out, out, out in the street...as Tom Waits would say:
"I'm gonna make like a hockey player
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Dave Dobbyn has actually been down in Christchurch already. According to a NatRad report I heard back in September, he turned up with no fanfare and no publicity to several of the welfare centres and played becuase he thought it would help cheer people up.
I've heard 'Loyal' several thousand times too many, and I could slag on him all day, but I think he deserves credit for that. Even if my unkind, uncalled for and frankly bad taste comment at the time was 'haven't the people of Christchurch suffered enough already?'
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Hebe, in reply to
Yes DD did come down, and to atone for my bitchery yesterday, I know it was much appreciated. Especially the just turning up and playing without fuss.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
Keep it down, it's the riot squad, keep it down, keep it down, keep it down, keep it down...
Show no mercy, rule the rod of iron, iron, iron, iron... -
I don't quite understand this "abandonment" thing.
Sure, there will be earthquakes for some time, *but* (and a seismologist can correct me here) I know of nowhere on earth that has experienced continuous significant earthquakes on an indefinite basis. So the earth will calm down in a while and we could see no more quakes for hundreds of years.
Why then are chunks of the city being abandoned in favour of greenfield development in places that might well get hit by a future quake? (albeit they are presumably less prone to liquefaction). The Wellington CBD (and airport) is built on reclaimed sandy soil - isn't that going to be prone to liquefaction when the Big One strikes? But we aren't abandoning it and rebuilding on Mt Vic.
Is this a profit-driven exercise - the government is helping their mates to make lots of money by building a new city on farmland?
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Hebe, in reply to
What happened to PR24s?
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Hebe,
Sand is good for earthquakes, absorbs the shockwaves nicely. The problem is river silt (loam) with a high water table. It's lovely to grow gardens in but the water is pushed up through the loosely adhered solid particles to make those sand volcanoes and spewing liquefaction through cracks.
It would cost so much to build in ways to withstand the liquefaction that abandoning the worst areas and giving people a boney, stoney, dry patch of land out west/south would be far cheaper for EQC and the Govt.
Trouble is I don't want to live where the tumbleweeds blow, and I suspect a lot of the Avonside area people don't either, not to mention thhe people in the hill-clearance areas.
Some days I look around and think that all the beautiful and funky bits of the city have gorn, gorn, gorn. So will we just end up a city of real blokes driving double-cab utes?
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Ross Mason, in reply to
Thanks ChrisDub. I kept the quotation marks for that reason. One presumes the volcanoes of the Peninsula have inserted themselves through the crust and through the general area of the east coast fault zone. Is it likely that they are acting as a "door stop" for the faults along the east coast?
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Rich of Observationz, in reply to
You might wind up with some sort of temporary / permanent autonomous zone springing up in areas abandoned by Authoritah.
People would need to be prepared to create their own services though, septic tanks, generators and water storage / collection. No different to living in the bush, though.
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ChrisW, in reply to
"Door stop"? - don't think so, no more significant than a boulder in a stream, perhaps causing a very local deflection in the flow. For the most part, I understand these volcanoes extend only a km or 2 below the surface, much shallower than the earthquake sources and faults. That is except for the narrow columns where the liquid magma flowed up through the crust to feed the volcanoes.
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