Posts by nzlemming

  • Hard News: Memories of the news,

    Wahine, I think, followed by the moon landing, then Kirk taking office according to my recollections. I remember being very sad when Big Norm died. Another early TV memory is being transfixed by Alister Riddell's Space Waltz on whatever the talent show was at the time. I remember my brother and I looking at each other and saying (in essence) "this is allowed in NZ now?"

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2813 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The Declaration of the…, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Trust us...

    Another in a long list of reasons not to use these fuckers.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2813 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The Declaration of the…,

    Not funny, because it's true. Well interpreted, Colin. I'm sure JPB would agree.

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  • Hard News: Friday Music: Deep cuts from Aotearoa, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    yes well done that woman! boldly going .... (do we get her back at some point?)

    They have to be pretty careful what they say and where so not in the immediate, I think.

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  • Speaker: The Government lost the election,

    No-one involved in MMP thought that it would be perfect from day one. Vested interests were always going to be a problem. The FPP mentality persisted far too long, in Labour as well as National. But it's still really young. In 180 years, 21 is a blip. The older voters have never cottoned to it, but they're starting to fade. Voters under 60 generally understand how it should work, now.

    The 2017 election was the first, in my opinion, that was actually an MMP-as-it-was-meant election. And that's not just because Labour won, because they almost didn't. But they did change their mindset and (mostly) stopped back-biting natural allies and potential coalition partners. Whereas National went full FPPtard and devoured their young.

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  • Speaker: The Government lost the election, in reply to izogi,

    The Greens started in MMP with incumbent MPs, and support from Labour in Coromandel.

    You miss the point. The Greens started as a party in 1990, well before the Clark/Anderton deal and before Fitzsimmons was elected. They were already a party when they joined with New Labour (and others) to form the Alliance. Social Credit were a party for a long time before they got a seat in the house in 1966, and their representation was spotty with only 4 MPs over 20 years.

    If anything, MMP has reduced the time it takes for a party to achieve enough support to translate into votes. I believe the Greens have yet to win an electorate but, nationwide, have sufficient support to field 8 MPs in the house. If one of those MPs was allowed to jump waka, then the people who voted Green will have lost that level of influence that they voted for. That's unfair.

    You're targeting the system because of the way it has been (ab)used, but that doesn't invalidate it. MMP is designed to split the House according to the percentage of support that a party has, not to allow dissidents to mask their intent until they're safely inside the tent before they announce their own party, which is a possible endpoint of what you're suggesting.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2813 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Friday Music: Deep cuts from Aotearoa,

    Today's House music:

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  • Hard News: Lorde, the council and the…, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Ok, so this might be difficult for people with the reasoning power of a powerful AI. I'll try to speak slowly.

    Try saying it without being a condescending prat. We might be more receptive. You still haven't answered my question about why you think alcohol is not a drug. With cited references, please.

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  • Speaker: The Government lost the election, in reply to izogi,

    Under the current MMP system, if MPs can't defect from parties then it's effectively a death sentence for the future of having any small parties at all, because when the existing ones die off it's impossible for new small parties to replace them.

    Nope. The Greens existed before the Alliance. The Alliance was, in effect, a mini-coalition of different parties, hence the name. Parties have to grow themselves.

    The point about not switching party is that the electorate made a party vote. If you can switch mid-term, that invalidates that vote. Why should an MP be allowed to do that? If they feel strongly enough that they can't continue with their party, they should resign from the job. If a list MP, end of their story, until the next election at least. If an electorate MP, let them present themselves for judgement to their electorate in a bye-election.

    Also, 1 new MP asking fellow MPs whether something was appropriate or a good idea does not mean that the Greens as a party were "horse-trading" their vote, as James Shaw has pointed out.

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  • Hard News: Lorde, the council and the…, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    So, why bother with craft beer and vineyards and maturing single malt whiskies for 20 years? It's just a drug, why don't we just inject pure industrial ethanol into our eyeballs for a quick and cheap hit?

    So, you're saying alcohol is not a drug? Please cite your evidence.

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