Hard News: Congratulations, Mr Key
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Quoting from my own blog: The NZ election - a jaundiced view
More than that, he seems not to understand just what life might be like for the people on the other side of the tracks, despite that much vaunted upbringing in a state house with a widowed mother. When speaking to school kids in Waitara, a small Taranaki town with a large proportion of underprivileged young Maori households, he chose as his topic National’s promise to get fast broadband into 75% of homes. The kids weren’t impressed.
“How can you compare the environment to broadband?” Jenses Kemp (17) said. “Not everyone has computers … how can he justify that billion dollars? Some kids here don’t even have money for clothes.”
Shane Partington (17) agreed. “That billion dollars could go towards so much. What about our education and health system?”
Taranaki Daily NewsKey forgets that his own underfunded childhood nevertheless had incredible privilege - a middle class mother who not only valued education, but knew how to go about getting it for her children, and a white skin.
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Perhaps Roger Douglas will stir things up a bit which might earn some concessions for Act in exchange for quiet, and then as a List MP he could just resign.
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And the farmers are right up there wanting the ETS dumped ASAP. The framers just want to keep polluting as long as they can.
The farmers in question are amoung the worlds most efficient users of carbon/kg of produce, they are by world standards the complete opposite of polluting. An ETS sets farmers/business as convenient political scapegoats and does nothing to tackle global warming.
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Which cryogenics company did Rodney-the-Epsom-poodle use to unfreeze Roger?
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I just heard Key said that "Hide as a Minister outside cabinet was a good idea." Remember the fuss when Peters was so appointed? Flop-flip.
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Under National, softball will gain prominence (3 strikes and you're out).
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What global warming? Rodney checked it out and there is none.
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Come on, Key was raised in a State House by a Mum on her own and has a few issues about cash which is why he has over compensated so much as the rich mans used car salesman does.
Does anyone know where the house Key grew up in is?
Could do the Richard Nixon log cabin museum thingy.
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Oh yeah - Yay Rodney - thanks mate.
Do poodles emit methane when they fart? -
The farmers in question are amoung the worlds most efficient users of carbon/kg of produce, they are by world standards the complete opposite of polluting.
{{Citation needed}}.
I call bullshit on this one.
It is uncontroversial among climate scientists that dairying is a major source of greenhouse emissions, intensive application of fertilisers causes further emissions, and that the emissions per unit of food are much greater than in most comparable forms of agriculture.
(Rice and palm oil are major emissions sources, particularly where large scale drainage and clearing occur.)
Sounds like the kind of bold and false assertions that many of our farmers continually make.
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I just heard Key said that "Hide as a Minister outside cabinet was a good idea." Remember the fuss when Peters was so appointed? Flop-flip.
That was over the suggestion that he was a minister outside government - a complete nonsense.
[and to a small extent, it was also over the Foreign Minister in particular, being outside government/cabinet]
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Does anyone know where the house Key grew up in is?
Well it's not there anymore - it was subdivided and turned into three 5 bedroom condos, each with their own lap pool, 5 car garaging, under-floor heating, water feature, wine cellar and panic room.
lol - j/k
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If the farmers can hold out for 20yrs on the ETS all of the Dairy would have been out sourced to South America anyway and the massive profits can take a hit from ETS if they even apply there.
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So Hide's to be a Minister outside Cabinet - presumedly so he can avoid collective responsibility and attack National for not providing a 7% flat tax rate and the summary execution of jaywalkers?
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NZPA/TV 3 reports:
Today Mr Hide accepted Sir Roger Douglas would not be made a minister while Mr Key said it was likely Mr Hide would hold such a role but outside of Government. ...
Mr Key said the support arrangement with ACT would be similar to the arrangement between New Zealand First and the last Labour government.
Smart move, I reckon. Disappoint a few True Believers short-term, get peace of mind long-term.
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So what is Rodney going to be be then?
Someone suggested education - WTF?
How about Minister for Poodles?
Minister of Softball?
Minister of Cryogenics?
Minister of Dancing Competitions? -
Ministers outside cabinet are subject to cabinet collective responsibility.
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{{Citation needed}}.
As you wish.
It is uncontroversial among climate scientists that dairying is a major source of greenhouse emissions, intensive application of fertilisers causes further emissions, and that the emissions per unit of food are much greater than in most comparable forms of agriculture.
This is all entirely correct, but irrelevent since the ETS does apply any tariff/taxation based upon that basis. The ETS taxes only production here, the rest of the world (where most of our production is consumed) also adopts the same techniques but less efficiently and taxfree. Best efficient production made less profitable = least efficient production made more profitable = more pollution. More pollution = more global warming.
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Thanks Graeme. Where's the upside in the arrangement then?
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Graeme
So what does Key mean by "ouside of government"? No collective responsibility, surely? Or a slip of tongue?
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or slip of 't' ...
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lol
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Angus, please lay out which of our large agriculture production competitors will have a significant difference in ETS-incentives? As I understand it, both the EU and the UK have ETS schemes in place that are currently working on getting agriculture included.
I'd also like your view on whether or not we should be reducing emmissions overall in our economy? Particularly given we have signed up to Kyoto like every other developed nation. Do you simply think taxpayers should wear the cost? Or is a whole-of-market ETS not the way to do it?
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Edit:
"This is all entirely correct, but irrelevent since the ETS does not apply any tariff/taxation based upon that basis."
Damn it.
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and of course, Australia's will do to...
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